The Bender Rumor

Postby GuRu on Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:37 pm

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crucifido wrote:I'd do it in a heartbeat. Why Indiana would do this though ios beyond me. I guess their disappointment in Bender, but its giving up an awful lot for a team that will also be rebuilding once they're bounced out of the playoffs next round.

Not for Bender but for the pick. Bender is iffy, but can easily be shipped off in another deal. That pick could give us more leverage with other deals or garner us a decent role player.

Dumping Devean isn't what I'd be excited about, the guy is good player, he's just been buried inrotation and without a definitive role for years now. That aside, getting rid of Medvedenko is nothing but a positive. He's a cap eater. All there is is only one more Euro to dump off of this roster and I'd be happy fan.


i agree with all of this. ever since i heard this rumor, i've been thinking it's too good to be true. what team wouldn't send out two non-contributors for what amounts to a one to two year tryout of a guy with serious potential. AND indy adds in their first rounder? i don't get it from their end. i'm sure they could get better for bender and a 1st. and donnie walsh is one of the best gms in the business. but hey, i sure as hell hope it happens, especially if that pick makes the boozer deal happen, too.

but again, i'm just not seeing how this deal helps indy all that much. it gets a few million off the cap one year earlier. i think george actually could play well in their system, but they've got stephen jackson, fred jones, and james jones all playing the swing position already (and playing well, in general).


Hey guys...here is my take

Walsh is a smart guy, and that organization is also very good at coddling the cap and making the right personnel moves to keep a team together and competitive cap-wise

Thats why they would value those expiring K's. thats why they cut their losses on bender. And they give away their pick because its literally another contract they dont want to have.
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Postby ahaider15 on Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:27 pm

Who is Bender can I find out what is real name is please
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Postby JSM on Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:38 pm

ahaider15 wrote:Who is Bender can I find out what is real name is please

Jonathan Bender

Here is his NBA.com Bio: link
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Postby jminges on Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:58 pm

We're willing to take on a bad contract and move our cap relief for a mid-first round lottery pick. I think this happens for George and Cook. Slava has a BYC. Meaning if the Boozer deal were to happen with Slava as the centerpiece, Jazz would get more off their salary cap, not to mention the buyout of Divac.
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Postby CaronKobeConnection on Sun May 01, 2005 12:15 am

A seven-footer guy able to play shooting guard, small forward and power forward... Very long... Great leaping skills... Nice shooting touch... Good in the open court... Defense needs work... Injury prone... Has done nothing remarkable in the NBA.

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Postby GCMD on Sun May 01, 2005 1:12 am

Ataris_PunK wrote:What is with all the george hate man? Seriously. Enough is enough. Hes a decent player. I dont get where all this hate stems from. Hes good defensively, something we lack. We should deftly try and keep george.


You like him? You can keep rooting for him next season even though he's with another team...he won't be wearing P&G again unless it's his silk undies... :freak2:
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Postby P X on Mon May 09, 2005 9:15 pm

A 7 footer, 6 year veteran, with a career average of 2.2 rebounds per game, Boykins has better rebounding numbers than him.
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Postby indy_dave00 on Sat May 14, 2005 11:32 am

Couple little notes on the Bender rumor.

First off Pacers according to rumor also get a Lakers #1 probably in 2007 in the trade.

Why would you want the oft injured Bender for that package? Well if he wasn't off injured there is no way the Pacers trade him.

Bender is very athletic , BUT he has a misalignment of his knee cap. He grew too fast as a kid and will forever be bothered by the effects of that. He is very brittle , but when healthy he has shown brief flashes of brilliance.

The Pacers want the 2nd year of Bender's deal (7.8 mil in 2006-07 off their cap) they need to resign both the Jones' by that time.

George and Slava /or Vlade all have 1 year deals.

What I'm hearing is Pacers are willing to trade the #17 pick for a couple reasons.

1. they want to sign a Euro vet Sarunas Jasikevicus (pg) Lithuania this summer

2. they already have a depth surplus and no playing time for a rookie next season

Although this rumor is strong , its not a done deal . Pacers/Lakers are still in discussions.
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Postby trodgers on Sat May 14, 2005 12:32 pm

swolswol wrote:
MrLakerFan_316 wrote:Bender is a Injured prone player - I don't get why the Lakers want him so bad.


BECUASE WE ARE SEND PORK GRINDS AND USED TIRES IN RETURN FOR GUY WHO CAN JUMP OUT OF THE BUILDING, HE HAS BEEN INJURED AND INCONSISTANT BUT WE ARE GIVING UP CRAP TO GET HIM


Swolswol is dead on. So is Guru. George didn't do much for us. Slava has never dont anything for us. It's at worst like trading a 2nd for a 1st. We know Slava and George are bench players at best (and I wouldn't be surprised if Slava is out of the NBA in a couple of years). Give Bender a chance. If there is any credibility to this, DO IT.

EDIT: Save this as a last resort. If we can get anyone else to bite on Slava and George, do that instead. His ability to "jump out of the building" has translated into a career best 11 rebounds in a game.
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Postby John3:16 on Sat May 14, 2005 2:41 pm

GuRu wrote:
Ataris_PunK wrote:What is with all the george hate man? Seriously. Enough is enough. Hes a decent player. I dont get where all this hate stems from. Hes good defensively, something we lack. We should deftly try and keep george.


Note to self:

Devean George registered as Ataris_PunK



Exactly what I was thinking.
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Postby alex58 on Sat May 14, 2005 2:51 pm

Binder is injured now , but he will not stay as is . I think he will be a very good addition, plus we have the pick too.
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Postby Kobe#1fan on Mon May 16, 2005 6:24 pm

The tradev is not GEORGE/SLAVA IT'S COOK/GEORGE
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Postby Lakers1 on Mon May 16, 2005 6:48 pm

Devean George is a superstar in the making....
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Postby S.R.05 on Mon May 16, 2005 6:50 pm

Lakers1 wrote:Devean George is a superstar in the making....

you're right, he could be an allstar quality water boy some day
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Postby live and die in LA on Mon May 16, 2005 7:18 pm

indy_dave00 wrote:Couple little notes on the Bender rumor.

First off Pacers according to rumor also get a Lakers #1 probably in 2007 in the trade.

Why would you want the oft injured Bender for that package? Well if he wasn't off injured there is no way the Pacers trade him.

Bender is very athletic , BUT he has a misalignment of his knee cap. He grew too fast as a kid and will forever be bothered by the effects of that. He is very brittle , but when healthy he has shown brief flashes of brilliance.

The Pacers want the 2nd year of Bender's deal (7.8 mil in 2006-07 off their cap) they need to resign both the Jones' by that time.

George and Slava /or Vlade all have 1 year deals.

What I'm hearing is Pacers are willing to trade the #17 pick for a couple reasons.

1. they want to sign a Euro vet Sarunas Jasikevicus (pg) Lithuania this summer

2. they already have a depth surplus and no playing time for a rookie next season

Although this rumor is strong , its not a done deal . Pacers/Lakers are still in discussions.


its good to hear that a pacer fan can support this trade, i hope the lakers can get this done :jam2:
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Postby LakerInsider2006 on Mon May 16, 2005 7:28 pm

George is likely going to be gone. He did the Lakers a disservice by sitting out nearly the entire season. Having said that, he doesn't suck. He's a good player. He gave us a lift in our championship runs offensively hitting key threes, he made some awesome defensive plays sacrificing his body and getting injured for the good of the team, and he served as an honest broker between shaq and kobe. I appreciate Devean George.
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Postby CaronKobeConnection on Mon May 16, 2005 7:54 pm

LakerInsider2006 wrote:George is likely going to be gone. He did the Lakers a disservice by sitting out nearly the entire season. Having said that, he doesn't suck. He's a good player. He gave us a lift in our championship runs offensively hitting key threes, he made some awesome defensive plays sacrificing his body and getting injured for the good of the team, and he served as an honest broker between shaq and kobe. I appreciate Devean George.


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Postby Lakerfan36 on Mon May 16, 2005 8:55 pm

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LakerInsider2006 wrote:George is likely going to be gone. He did the Lakers a disservice by sitting out nearly the entire season. Having said that, he doesn't suck. He's a good player. He gave us a lift in our championship runs offensively hitting key threes, he made some awesome defensive plays sacrificing his body and getting injured for the good of the team, and he served as an honest broker between shaq and kobe. I appreciate Devean George.


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Postby showtimecontinue on Mon May 16, 2005 9:46 pm

WHO?WHO,S BENDE?GREEN ANPPLE?
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Postby RHCP on Mon May 16, 2005 10:20 pm

showtimecontinue wrote:WHO?WHO?S BENDE?GREEN ANPPLE?
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Postby showtimecontinue on Tue May 17, 2005 4:59 am

WHO?WHO?S BENDE?GREEN ANPPLE?[/quote] :man8:[/q[quote="RHCP"][quote="showtimecontinue"]uote]
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Hope for the Emplay rumor

Postby Jello Jiggler on Thu May 19, 2005 11:12 pm

Finally......Indy is eliminated!!!!

NOW can the Laker hopeful receive some new of shaking up this bad Laker Roster. As Emplay said in his rumor, hope the Lakers and Pacers can now go forward with this supposed trade.

Bender and #17 for George, Medvedenko, Cook, plus change.

Hope for A trade sooner than later..
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Re: Hope for the Emplay rumor

Postby Still A Dynasty on Thu May 19, 2005 11:31 pm

Jello Jiggler wrote:Finally......Indy is eliminated!!!!

NOW can the Laker hopeful receive some new of shaking up this bad Laker Roster. As Emplay said in his rumor, hope the Lakers and Pacers can now go forward with this supposed trade.

Bender and #17 for George, Medvedenko, Cook, plus change.

Hope for A trade sooner than later..


yep...my first thoughts after getting over the reggie thing

its good for us


and now we seattle out hopefully we negotiate with daniels and as soon as its allowed we can sign him
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Postby S.R.05 on Thu May 19, 2005 11:43 pm

showtimecontinue wrote:WHO?WHO?S BENDE?GREEN ANPPLE?
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Postby alex58 on Fri May 20, 2005 10:36 am

I think Indiana is not gonna mind any trade for Bender, but I think too that we gonna give too much for him.Adraft pick +George+cook+Medvedenco is too much . May be for the pic ,Medv. and cook will be ok. Let's use George in another trade as he has a little more value.
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