BDG's SPL Exclusive: Lakers vs. Grizzlies [7/8/06]

Postby hype on Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:58 pm

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YESMAR1 wrote:88-87 Mephis 30 sec remaining


now who won the game?
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Postby ITS JOEY on Sat Jul 08, 2006 6:00 pm

haha wow a close game
i was suppose to go but never made it
ill go to tomorrow game
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Postby i am not vladamir on Sat Jul 08, 2006 6:00 pm

So this league has a foul limit?

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Postby halekulani on Sat Jul 08, 2006 6:21 pm

what is so solid about pinnock?
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Postby nameant on Sat Jul 08, 2006 6:22 pm

what happened?
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Postby Klewfish on Sat Jul 08, 2006 6:31 pm

k0pr0phage wrote:
MasterRaider wrote:Douthit > Cook

Douthit's my boy. In another four or five seasons, he may be NBA ready to retire.


I knew you accidently left out the bolded part so I fixed it for you.
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Postby wyked laker on Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:09 pm

So who won? :ball1:
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Postby nimannn on Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:17 pm

I was at the game, the Lakers choked so hard it's not even funny.

They were up 87-85 with like 1:15 left. Grizzlies shoot and miss but the Lakers can't get secure the rebound. Around 15 seconds later, the Grizzlies get fouled before a shot and take out of bounds. They shoot it again and miss it again but the Lakers fail to secure the rebound once again. The ball was in there hands but they just couldn't come up with it. Grizzlies then drain a wide-open 3 to go up 88-87. Keep in mind, that Bynum was taken out before this possession for God knows what reason. He did have six fouls but you can't foul at in SPL, every foul after your 6th is a technical. That is the only reason I can think that Bynum was out for that possession but it still makes no sense. At any rate, Lakers inbound the ball for in attempt to take the lead with like 35 seconds left and turn it over. The Grizzlies make 1/2 FTs so the Lakers have another chance to tie it up. The Lakers inbound the ball and turn it over AGAIN! They foul the Grizzlies with like 8 seconds left. The Grizzlies scrub misses both FTs, the Lakers take it up court, and Pinnock misses the shot to tie the game at the buzzer.


As for the overall game, it was pretty disappointing because the damn ref kept calling stupid fouls on Bynum. He was in foul trouble the entire game and sat on the bench for most of it. He was 6/9 at the FT line which was pretty refreshing. Farmar was good but all of his baskets came off lay-ups from fast breaks or backdoor cuts. I don't remember him making one shot outside of the paint. Pinnock was also decent, he was definitely the most passionate player of the game. By the end of the game, he had Von Wafer's spot on the court. As for Wafer, he did absolutely nothing. He played much more controlled and didn't jack up back shot and bad shot but that's pretty much the only positive thing he did. That's all for now.
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Postby shoe on Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:19 pm

soo we lost?
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Postby CaCHooKa Man on Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:20 pm

i think the lakers lost by 2
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Postby Born2Ball on Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:31 pm

anyone got box scores?
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Postby scott121 on Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:34 pm

[quote="nimannn"]I was at the game, the Lakers choked so hard it's not even funny.

They were up 87-85 with like 1:15 left. Grizzlies shoot and miss but the Lakers can't get secure the rebound. Around 15 seconds later, the Grizzlies get fouled before a shot and take out of bounds. They shoot it again and miss it again but the Lakers fail to secure the rebound once again. The ball was in there hands but they just couldn't come up with it. Grizzlies then drain a wide-open 3 to go up 88-87. Keep in mind, that Bynum was taken out before this possession for God knows what reason. He did have six fouls but you can't foul at in SPL, every foul after your 6th is a technical. That is the only reason I can think that Bynum was out for that possession but it still makes no sense. At any rate, Lakers inbound the ball for in attempt to take the lead with like 35 seconds left and turn it over. The Grizzlies make 1/2 FTs so the Lakers have another chance to tie it up. The Lakers inbound the ball and turn it over AGAIN! They foul the Grizzlies with like 8 seconds left. The Grizzlies scrub misses both FTs, the Lakers take it up court, and Pinnock misses the shot to tie the game at the buzzer.


As for the overall game, it was pretty disappointing because the damn ref kept calling stupid fouls on Bynum. He was in foul trouble the entire game and sat on the bench for most of it. He was 6/9 at the FT line which was pretty refreshing. Farmar was good but all of his baskets came off lay-ups from fast breaks or backdoor cuts. I don't remember him making one shot outside of the paint. Pinnock was also decent, he was definitely the most passionate player of the game. By the end of the game, he had Von Wafer's spot on the court. As for Wafer, he did absolutely nothing. He played much more controlled and didn't jack up back shot and bad shot but that's pretty much the only positive thing he did. That's all for now.[/quote]

between wafer, pinnock and green, who would you give the final roaster spot to?
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Postby nimannn on Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:36 pm

Basely judged from today's game:

1. Pinnock
2. Green
3. Wafer

Then again, Douthit had a better game than Bynum too.
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Postby melo061 on Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:37 pm

Nima, was there anyone on the team who looked like they could shoot from downtown consistently?
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Postby nimannn on Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:39 pm

melo061 wrote:Nima, was there anyone on the team who looked like they could shoot from downtown consistently?


Well not too many 3-pointers were shot in this game but I would still say no. Pinnock had a nice step-back 3-pointer in the defenders face during the Lakers rally in the 4th quarter though.

Also I forgot to add, Farmar showed his vertical on the play where the before mentioned Grizzlies player missed 2 FTs to seal the game. The players was actually on a breakaway clear for an easy dunk but Farmar came and blocked him from behind. He also fouled him but he prevented the dunk.
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Postby flexxdzl on Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:47 pm

nimannn wrote:
melo061 wrote:Nima, was there anyone on the team who looked like they could shoot from downtown consistently?


Well not too many 3-pointers were shot in this game but I would still say no. Pinnock had a nice step-back 3-pointer in the defenders face during the Lakers rally in the 4th quarter though.

Also I forgot to add, Farmar showed his vertical on the play where the before mentioned Grizzlies player missed 2 FTs to seal the game. The players was actually on a breakaway clear for an easy dunk but Farmar came and blocked him from behind. He also fouled him but he prevented the dunk.


Who is starter material down the line as far as Pinnok and farmar..do you think douthitt will get an invite to camp..and how did slaughter look?
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Postby nimannn on Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:59 pm

Farmar played better defense than Pinnock so he is much more likely to be a starter. I'll be surprised if Pinnock even makes the team with all the players we have. Slaughter look very average, I highly doubt he'll get an invite.
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Postby BadNewsBear on Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:03 pm

How about Byron Sanders? Was he the worst summer league players you've ever seen? (He was one the worst players to ever get playing time at Carolina)
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Postby Sky on Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:06 pm

A Danilo Pinnock. Surprise! Can create his own shot, hit
midrange, 3 and finish, smart team defender,
athletic, good first step. Mitch has blown many but
this one was theft. Pinnock has skill sets we lack.

Highlights on O: Dribble curl pull up 18 footer money.
Doubled and immediately knows where Douthit is supposed to
be, open look 2. Baseline cut, catch in rhythm, windmill,
layup. Catch and shoot 3 nada but net. Had 16 all of it
earned. Was directing players where to go, getting the tri.

Highlights on D: Reads a pass jumps the lane steal.
Man is pulling up for 3, instead of
going for the block he goes for the ball and gets all of it
to break up the play.

Concerns: Judgment not always there. Off balance 18 footer
with :02 left, had more time to get a better look. Can get
beat man off the dribble.

A- Jordan Farmar - Created good opportunities for himself
and others. Foul trouble and nerves early then settled down
as the game went on.

Highlights on O - Crossover to take man at halfcourt in
transition, penetrates inside the line, perfectly timed and
thrown bounce pass to Bynum slam. Alley oops to Bynum.
Great left hand in circle cut dribble penetration to get to
the line and finish. Very economical with the ball up top
in the tri, makes the pass with few dribbles.

Highlights on D - Backed off man slightly anticipating pass,
jumps the passing lane and knocks the ball away with his
left, layup the other way. Skied for authoriative D board
in traffic.

Concerns - Bynum is open and Farmar can't get him the ball,
either won't pass it to him, is dribbling wing and not
seeing the floor, or throws a post entry too low for a to.
Went under every screen, fond of the Sasha run beside the
guy after he beats you D. Late a lot. Seems he missed
nearly every catch and shoot jumper he took. Takes too
long to bring it up.

B Marcus Douthit - Has added upper body and arms at long
last.

Highlights on O: Spin move finish in the lane. Some good
boards in traffic.

Highlights on D: The swats. Smart double teams to help
Green with Warrick. Steals an inbound pass, behind the back
pass to Farmar who gets it to Bynum slam.

Concerns: Taking shots he can't make (elbow, ft line
extended, 18 feet. Can't protect the ball well, picked a
lot, including dribble pentration elbow with the game on the
line. Clothesline jumpers, flatter than Kansas.

C Marcus Slaughter

pro: Very good handles for a big, played without hesitation.
Dribbled thru traffic for as nice finsih inside.

con: off-balance jumpers and rebounds, has to square up.

C- Devin Green

pro: good passes once he made them
con: overdribbles every time down

D Doron Perkins
Hustles but off balance frequently and just doesn't have the
NBA level skills.

D Andrew Bynum
The good news is he's definitely bulked up can see it
immediately in the shoulers, arms and legs. He's more
fundamentally sound on defense with good timing for swats.
Caught and finished for alley oops but struggled to catch
the ball and finish on nearly all of them.

The bad news is he's hesitant. I have the ball now...I will
look this way....then that way...now I'll make a move. He
had the ball anchored low block and War and Peace later he
made a move. Unforgivably long time with the ball.

He was also off balance and out of position for some
rebounds and defensive plays. First time he gets the ball,
anchors his man swings for 5 footer...goes 8, nothing but
air.

F Von Wafer
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Drew plenty of oohs and ahhs with warmup slams. And was
worthless in the game. Bricked everything, did
nothing well, made bad decisions on both ends.

Von had to be looking at what Pinnock was doing and saying
I'm out of a job. Didn't seem engaged, just
floating out there and missing everything in sight.

Horvath, Fay, Sanders - Forgettable.
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Postby trodgers on Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:11 pm

Awesome take, Sky. Thanks for the information.
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Postby revgen on Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:14 pm

Sky wrote:D Andrew Bynum
The good news is he's definitely bulked up can see it
immediately in the shoulers, arms and legs. He's more
fundamentally sound on defense with good timing for swats.
Caught and finished for alley oops but struggled to catch
the ball and finish on nearly all of them.

The bad news is he's hesitant. I have the ball now...I will
look this way....then that way...now I'll make a move. He
had the ball anchored low block and War and Peace later he
made a move. Unforgivably long time with the ball.

He was also off balance and out of position for some
rebounds and defensive plays. First time he gets the ball,
anchors his man swings for 5 footer...goes 8, nothing but
air.


You also forgot to mention that he's actually shooting free throws well now. I'd say he shot between 60%-70% which is a lot better than the 30% he shot during the regular season last year.

I do agree he looks hesitant with the ball in his hands, but part of the reason is that he's looking for his teamates off the double-teams and his teamates just stand around. However, he should have figured that out in the first 2 quarters and just stop looking for them and go to the basket.

He was definitley out of position a lot. The other guy from the Grizzlies was outhustling him most of the time.
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Postby Sky on Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:16 pm

Yeah you're right his ft form was vastly improved. Nice rhythm. But inconsistent with it. Had a few empty trips at the line.
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Postby trodgers on Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:18 pm

So the SPL team was running the triangle?
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Postby revgen on Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:19 pm

k0pr0phage wrote:So the SPL team was running the triangle?


If you want to call it that. :mhihi:

I think they were trying.
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Postby Sky on Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:19 pm

More like attempting. It is SPL and most haven't seen it.
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