BDG's SPL Exclusive: Lakers vs. Grizzlies [7/8/06]

Postby nimannn on Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:19 pm

Sky, why do you think they had so many problmes getting Bynum the ball throughout the game? To me it looked like a combination of Bynum not establishing his space well (it looked like that Greek guy was over-powering him) and our guards not giving him post-entry passes fast enough.
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Postby halekulani on Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:20 pm

nice sky

but i won't believe the pinnock details until i see it for myself.
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Postby nimannn on Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:24 pm

Details of Bynum's trips to the FT line:

2/2

1/2 (missed second)

1/1

0/2

2/2 (cluth end of game FTs)

6/9 total.
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Postby Sky on Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:27 pm

nimannn - Part of it was Farmar. Bynum was asking for the ball and he still woudn't throw it. Jordan may have been gun shy after his first post entry pass was a too low to. Bynum was also open when Farmar was headed back up top and in no position to make the pass.

Another factor is the tri is just too new to these guys and they weren't playing instinctively because that can't possibly be expected of them.

Thrid would be what you just said about Bynum. Needs to set better targets where he has his man sealed and is squared up to the passer.

halekulani - Yeah I understand completely. I'd want proof too. A guard that can create his own shot other than Kobe would be very welcome. I loved that he could hit off both the dribble curl and catch and shoot, along with finsihing well. He keeps this up he has a very real shot at making the active roster.

nimann 2 - ok thanks. I don't have a stat sheet with me. I guess the ohfer in the 4th stuck out to me. The last 2 late were clutch.
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Postby revgen on Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:29 pm

nimannn wrote:Sky, why do you think they had so many problmes getting Bynum the ball throughout the game? To me it looked like a combination of Bynum not establishing his space well (it looked like that Greek guy was over-powering him) and our guards not giving him post-entry passes fast enough.


That greek guy was holding Bynum and literally putting his hand over Bynum's face as Bynum backed him up. It may have intimidated Farmar into thinking that the Greek guy would deflect a pass.

What Farmar and Co. need to understand is that Bynum's arms are longer than the Greek's and they should have threw it high in order for Bynum to grab it. Kinda like how Kobe used to pass a ball high to Shaq. It's something Farmar and Bynum need to practice IMHO.
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Postby flexxdzl on Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:30 pm

k0pr0phage wrote:So the SPL team was running the triangle?



That could be the reason for bynum being a little slow..he might be over thinking...at some point it will all click for him..hopefully he gets alot of run in the SPL and in preseason...
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Postby strikemode14 on Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:31 pm

After looking at the game does Douthit have a prayer of being in a laker uniform.
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Postby trodgers on Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:34 pm

flexxdzl wrote:
k0pr0phage wrote:So the SPL team was running the triangle?



That could be the reason for bynum being a little slow..he might be over thinking...at some point it will all click for him..hopefully he gets alot of run in the SPL and in preseason...

On the other hand, he should know the triangle better than anyone else on the floor...
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Postby Freakout on Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:36 pm

k0pr0phage wrote:
flexxdzl wrote:
k0pr0phage wrote:So the SPL team was running the triangle?



That could be the reason for bynum being a little slow..he might be over thinking...at some point it will all click for him..hopefully he gets alot of run in the SPL and in preseason...

On the other hand, he should know the triangle better than anyone else on the floor...


How does that help when the other guys (other than Green) are clueless.
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Postby revgen on Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:39 pm

strikemode14 wrote:After looking at the game does Douthit have a prayer of being in a laker uniform.


I think Pinnock has more of a chance. If Pinnock wasn't there then I'd say maybe.
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Postby scott121 on Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:43 pm

since wafer will be cut, pinnock will take his place. green will take the final spot on the roaster.
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Postby Weezy on Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:56 pm

I'd like to throw Wafer and Smush on the roaster.
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Postby lotus on Sat Jul 08, 2006 9:06 pm

Sky wrote:

"D Andrew Bynum
The bad news is he's hesitant. I have the ball now...I will
look this way....then that way...now I'll make a move. He
had the ball anchored low block and War and Peace later he
made a move. Unforgivably long time with the ball."

Interesting because that description reminds me of how Kareem used to play. The only difference is that when Kareem held the ball long, a double would come and he would find the open man, or if a double didn't come then he would finish with the sky hook.

I'm tempted to say that his hesitation appears that he is going through a checklist, maybe at the recommendation of Kareem. If so, then it is safe to assume that this check off process will get quicker and Bynum will be more decisive when he gets the ball.
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Postby John3:16 on Sat Jul 08, 2006 9:10 pm

k0pr0phage wrote:Awesome take, Sky. Thanks for the information.



Agree. Great write-up. I'm a little disappointed that Bynum didn't do better. Hopefully he'll pick it up.
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Postby MasterRaider on Sat Jul 08, 2006 9:17 pm

strikemode14 wrote:After looking at the game does Douthit have a prayer of being in a laker uniform.


Douthit should ALREADY be here in place of Cook. Thanks to hiring coaches that care more about O instead of D, we're stuck with Cookie.
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Postby i am not vladamir on Sat Jul 08, 2006 9:21 pm

Is Pinock's D better than Smush's?

And does he have the ability to play the 1?
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Postby MasterRaider on Sat Jul 08, 2006 9:40 pm

i am not vladamir wrote:Is Pinock's D better than Smush's?

And does he have the ability to play the 1?


At 6'5 210, he's clearly a 2 and not a 1.
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Postby live and die in LA on Sat Jul 08, 2006 9:41 pm

here is a video of the first half. courtesy of lakersplayoffbound from lakersground.

http://rapidshare.de/files/25338145/SPL ... f.mpg.html
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Postby trodgers on Sat Jul 08, 2006 10:07 pm

Freakout wrote:
k0pr0phage wrote:
flexxdzl wrote:
k0pr0phage wrote:So the SPL team was running the triangle?



That could be the reason for bynum being a little slow..he might be over thinking...at some point it will all click for him..hopefully he gets alot of run in the SPL and in preseason...

On the other hand, he should know the triangle better than anyone else on the floor...


How does that help when the other guys (other than Green) are clueless.

Well, Wafer was there, too. Then again, I'm not sure what your point is. Why would Bynum be hesitant because other people don't know what they're doing?
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Postby mulisha on Sat Jul 08, 2006 10:11 pm

live and die in LA wrote:here is a video of the first half. courtesy of lakersplayoffbound from lakersground.

http://rapidshare.de/files/25338145/SPL ... f.mpg.html


I know its only a few plays but Bynum looks quite a bit better than I last saw him. He was active in those clips but no one got him the ball. Also, Farmar looked a lot more athletic than what I saw from him at UCLA.
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Postby JSM on Sat Jul 08, 2006 10:11 pm

Thanks a lot for the updates guy (especially Sky). Pinnock sounds very promising. Draft sleeper perhaps.
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Postby trodgers on Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:31 pm

MasterRaider wrote:
i am not vladamir wrote:Is Pinock's D better than Smush's?

And does he have the ability to play the 1?


At 6'5 210, he's clearly a 2 and not a 1.

There are comboguards...I've only seen a bit of Pinnock, but he looks very quick. Had a good ast/to ratio in college, too. It's not wholly inconceivable that he could play 1 in the Triangle.
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Postby MasterRaider on Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:39 pm

k0pr0phage wrote:
MasterRaider wrote:
i am not vladamir wrote:Is Pinock's D better than Smush's?

And does he have the ability to play the 1?


At 6'5 210, he's clearly a 2 and not a 1.

There are comboguards...I've only seen a bit of Pinnock, but he looks very quick. Had a good ast/to ratio in college, too. It's not wholly inconceivable that he could play 1 in the Triangle.


I meant on D.
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Postby baller4life88 on Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:39 pm

What time should i get there? And is im jsut wondering if their is anyway to take any pics wit any of the players?
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Postby AG1507 on Sun Jul 09, 2006 12:11 am

Did anybody pick up a program with all the rosters? If so, could you please scan them or type them up? I'm interested in seeing the other teams' official rosters.

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