06-12-10 Lakers vs Knicks - 1pm PST

Re: 06-12-10 Lakers vs Knicks - 1pm PST

Postby z32 on Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:23 pm

Forced shot after forced shot. No one is setting each other up; last handful of possessions all have been 1-on-1s. Get Caracter back out there.
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Re: 06-12-10 Lakers vs Knicks - 1pm PST

Postby halekulani on Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:27 pm

strawberry can't shoot ugh
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Re: 06-12-10 Lakers vs Knicks - 1pm PST

Postby SignPippenNow on Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:38 pm

TKainZero wrote:Ebanks and Caracter are both looking shaky.

I think they read too much of the hype about themselves.

Both are trying too hard.


Let's see it takes some players over a year to learn triangle. You are banging on these guys after two practices and two games. Is a summer league player now not allowed to have an off game? You amaze me.
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Re: 06-12-10 Lakers vs Knicks - 1pm PST

Postby SignPippenNow on Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:40 pm

lakers_09tv wrote:i highly doubt that Caracter makes this team. Dude is a fouling machine and loses the ball too much.


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Re: 06-12-10 Lakers vs Knicks - 1pm PST

Postby halekulani on Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:41 pm

gerald green is so bad it's amazing how far his game has deteriorated
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Re: 06-12-10 Lakers vs Knicks - 1pm PST

Postby halekulani on Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:42 pm

ebanks is struggling against walker's weight advantage but that's expected. definitely similar to the paul pierce - ariza matchup
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Re: 06-12-10 Lakers vs Knicks - 1pm PST

Postby TKainZero on Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:42 pm

GG is a piece of work.
Hits a couple great shots, then loses the dribble with no defender within 10 feet of him.
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Re: 06-12-10 Lakers vs Knicks - 1pm PST

Postby TKainZero on Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:44 pm

Caracter should be signed on his passing skills alone
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Re: 06-12-10 Lakers vs Knicks - 1pm PST

Postby TKainZero on Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:45 pm

16 points 9 rebounds for caracter.
8 fouls and probally as many turnovers.
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Re: 06-12-10 Lakers vs Knicks - 1pm PST

Postby TKainZero on Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:55 pm

Caracter ended with

16 points, 10 rebounds 8 turnovers, 8 fouls

Ebanks was just terrible.
2-13 shooting 7 points, 5 rebounds, and he had 5 of his shots blocked.
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Re: 06-12-10 Lakers vs Knicks - 1pm PST

Postby z32 on Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:58 pm

Sloppy game by everyone. Not enough teamplay and too much 1-on-1 basketball. Ebanks was completely out of sync today. No one was setting him up so he seemed to force a lot of shots. Just looked frustrated with no rhythm whatsoever.

Caracter still was somehow able to produce out there despite not having his best outting. He scrapped for his points and continues to showcase a good array of postmoves. His handles are really suspect right now. A TON of bobbles and missed catches. The good thing is he doesn't seem to lose the ball when he's doing his offensive moves, but everywhere else is another thing lol. He also seems to be a willing a capable passer, but he needs to have better awareness on the timing of his passes(lot of turnovers, same with Ebanks).
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Re: 06-12-10 Lakers vs Knicks - 1pm PST

Postby TT24 on Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:59 pm

The team as a whole looked a mess. I know that they're playing in the Triangle and only had about 2 weeks to learn it, but damn! This is the worst they looked compared to the other games. But this is SL, so I'm not expexting them to like the Lakers. Guys better keep hitting the gym and work hard. Even if they are invited to camp, it doesn't mean they are making the team.
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Re: 06-12-10 Lakers vs Knicks - 1pm PST

Postby TKainZero on Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:02 pm

It says something, that Caracter can have an awful game, and still have a double double.
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Re: 06-12-10 Lakers vs Knicks - 1pm PST

Postby TT24 on Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:04 pm

z32 wrote:Sloppy game by everyone. Not enough teamplay and too much 1-on-1 basketball. Ebanks was completely out of sync today. No one was setting him up so he seemed to force a lot of shots. Just looked frustrated with no rhythm whatsoever.

Same thing I thought as well. He did make some good passes though, especially in the post. But he has to and can play better.
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Re: 06-12-10 Lakers vs Knicks - 1pm PST

Postby TT24 on Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:05 pm

TKainZero wrote:It says something, that Caracter can have an awful game, and still have a double double.

Kind of like Zach Randalph before he came to Mem.
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Re: 06-12-10 Lakers vs Knicks - 1pm PST

Postby JSM on Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:41 pm

Givony from Draft Express posted a few tweets during the game, evaluating Caracter and Ebanks...

DraftExpress: Derrick Caracter is looking absolutely fantastic. Every European GM in the building has a huge hard on for him right now. about 5 hours ago via UberTwitter

DraftExpress: Derrick Caracter moves the way very few big men can. Extremely fluid and nimble with superb body control. Body looks great. Excellent hands. about 5 hours ago via UberTwitter

DraftExpress: Derrick Caracter is not super explosive (plays below the rim) but he gets off the floor very quickly, which really helps make up for that. about 5 hours ago via UberTwitter

DraftExpress: Devin Ebanks on the other hand seems to have reverted back to his West Virginia days offensively. Taking bad shots, turning it over, etc. about 5 hours ago via UberTwitter
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Re: 06-12-10 Lakers vs Knicks - 1pm PST

Postby therealdeal on Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:55 pm

^ Ebanks certainly looked weak today. But everyone can have a bad game.
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Re: 06-12-10 Lakers vs Knicks - 1pm PST

Postby dj vitus on Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:23 pm

not counting on eBanks to take very many shots. how was his defense?
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Re: 06-12-10 Lakers vs Knicks - 1pm PST

Postby revgen on Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:01 pm

^Hard to say. Both teams were sloppy.
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Re: 06-12-10 Lakers vs Knicks - 1pm PST

Postby TT24 on Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:48 pm

dj vitus wrote:not counting on eBanks to take very many shots. how was his defense?

Yeah. He's not igoing to take many if he makes the team.
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Re: 06-12-10 Lakers vs Knicks - 1pm PST

Postby jimbo327 on Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:09 pm

Next game will be interesting. Pitting Caracter vs. Demarcus Cousin. I think Caracter will hold his own, but this is going to be a good test because both guys are very similar. Not super explosive, a bit undersized, and have good moves.

And can someone ask LO to learn Caracter's low post moves?
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Re: 06-12-10 Lakers vs Knicks - 1pm PST

Postby TT24 on Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:23 pm

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Re: 06-12-10 Lakers vs Knicks - 1pm PST

Postby TKainZero on Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:01 am

Whoever said Caracter has good hands must have been on drugs.

Dude has Kwame Brown hands.
8 turnovers last game.


in 3 summer league games, i have seen a Dozen Kwame Moments.
And all people who have been laker fans for years, know the legend of Kwames hands.
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Re: 06-12-10 Lakers vs Knicks - 1pm PST

Postby JSM on Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:21 am

TKainZero wrote:Whoever said Caracter has good hands must have been on drugs.

Depends. He has good hands when he has the ball in his possession and is making his moves in the post. He has good hands in the sense that he's a very good passer. But then when it comes to catching passes, or securing a rebound...he can't seem to control the ball. Strange that he can be good at one and not the other because they usually go together. Unlike Kwame though, he has a good work ethic (dropping 40 pounds for example), so I think with our coaching staff, he could definitely improve any problem he's having with TOs.
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Re: 06-12-10 Lakers vs Knicks - 1pm PST

Postby halekulani on Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:20 am

TKainZero wrote:Whoever said Caracter has good hands must have been on drugs.

Dude has Kwame Brown hands.
8 turnovers last game.


in 3 summer league games, i have seen a Dozen Kwame Moments.
And all people who have been laker fans for years, know the legend of Kwames hands.


pretty sure sanborn takes the kwame award for terrible hands
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