Lakers vs Pistons 5 pm Pacific! 1st summer league game

jonnyshevanel wrote:Ebanks destroyed. Caracter was great, minus the excessive fouling. Strawberry is quick, but bad decision maker. Kurz did okay. Green is bad. The rest were not really noticeable to me.

Something tells me you weren't watching Jaaber.

lol the lakers summer league team choked away a big 4th quarter lead just like the real lakers team

revgen wrote:

jonnyshevanel wrote:Ebanks destroyed. Caracter was great, minus the excessive fouling. Strawberry is quick, but bad decision maker. Kurz did okay. Green is bad. The rest were not really noticeable to me.

Something tells me you weren't watching Jaaber.

Ah yeah I forgot about him for some reason. He looked pretty good. White owned him at the end lol

The guys did pretty well considering 3 of the Pistons played in the NBA last year.

Jaaber - Definitely surprised me. He was pretty much the reason why the offense ran so smoothly. Also busts his butt on defense too. Best guard on that team.

Strawberry - Quick on defense. Bad decisionmaking.

Green - He sucks

Caracter - Nice post moves. Agressive, but way too agressive. Needs to scale back so he doesn't pick up fouls.

Ebanks - Basically Trevor Ariza with a little less speed but some more strength. He won't be abused in the post as badly against Melo like Ariza was, but he won't be as quick as Trev after loose balls.

I saw the game can't lie liked what I saw from Caracter and Ebanks however it is summer league. Adman Morrsion averaged 25 points in summer league and Tim Duncan did not play well at all, when he was in the summer league. Get the picture!!!!!

harrise007 wrote:I saw the game can't lie liked what I saw from Caracter and Ebanks however it is summer league. Adman Morrsion averaged 25 points in summer league and Tim Duncan did not play well at all, when he was in the summer league. Get the picture!!!!!

Very good point. But you must admit, Ebanks, Caracter and Jaabar look promising and could grow.

I posted this elsewhere and don't feel like retyping it

Character and Ebanks were the stars of the game tonight. Character got better as the game wore on, grabbing more boards and clearing out the paint a bit more, playing solid D, too. Ebanks looks like if he lost ~5-10 pounds he'd be even quicker off his feet. The Trevor comparisons are close, but he's a step slower... still very good and even showed a pretty good jumper (not great, but he's been working on it!)

Character plays a little like big baby, but has better footwork around the rim, not as quick laterally (yet), and is a much better passer. He had some very very good give and go's, one that went uncredited and was chalked up as a loose ball... if he makes the team, he'd be 2nd or 3rd best passing big on the team. 1) Pau 2) Character 3) LO (who IMHO is not a great passer and can't deliver a post entry pass if his life depended on it).

Ebanks/Character >>> Mbenga/Powell

I know we give up size here, but you have to sign these rooks. Ebanks' ceiling is pretty dang high imho -- a little more conditioning and he'll be as quick as Trev, stronger than Trev and is already longer than him. Character has some upside, too, but he needs to drop about another 10 lbs to help with his lateral movement. Even so, our bench NEEDS a guy that can get his AND pass out of the post. Powell is NOT that guy... and of course Mbenga is not either.

If we get lucky, Luke will retire and we can sign Ebanks, Character and Mbenga. Actually, I'd prefer we made a run at Nazr Mohammed (was earning a bloated 6.4mil, so not sure he'd sign for the vet min?), Johan Petro (was making only vet min and has more skills than Mbenga and is only 24), or even Mikey Moore (also making vet min).

Ebanks and Caracter both with 20+ point games in their first games as Lakers.

For the first time since Bynum was drafted, there is youth on the roster.

^But guess how they got those 20 points each?

Look no further than Jaaber. Who had 11 assists and 3 TO's. That's the guy I'm really interested in.

Anybody have the box score of this game?

NVM I found it.

revgen wrote:^But guess how they got those 20 points each?

Look no further than Jaaber. Who had 11 assists and 3 TO's. That's the guy I'm really interested in.

I've seen Jaaber play a couple of times in Europe. Wasn't too impressed.

I was pretty impressed with our 2nd rounders. Ebanks is practically a lock to take Adam Morrison's spot on the team in my opinion. He brings length, athleticism, and a defensive mindset that will help in spot minutes. Caracter also has a really good shot to take Powell's spot. I do love Powell's leadership and he is close with Kobe, but in the end Caracter is more talented and will cost less. Jabeer and DJ deserve training camp invites, possibly Kurz/Sims as well. Jabeer likely returns to europe by the sound of things though.

ZenMaster4President wrote:

revgen wrote:^But guess how they got those 20 points each?

Look no further than Jaaber. Who had 11 assists and 3 TO's. That's the guy I'm really interested in.

I've seen Jaaber play a couple of times in Europe. Wasn't too impressed.

Well what were you looking for? An all-star?

He's good enough for what we need. Which is a guy with enough quickness to stay in front of fast guards, and good playmaking and decision-making skills. His jumpshot isn't money, but we can live with that if his contract isn't too expensive.

can't believe we blew that lead I was actually mad for a few seconds when they were interviewing Austin Daye. I was thinking "That should be Ebanks "

Ebanks and Caracter looked great out there. Ebanks has a pretty nice mid range game, which I didn't know.

Caracter is like a taller big baby. He's a pretty good finisher.

Gerald Green was TURRIBLE...Only nice play he had was that inbounds pass that lead to a dunk.

Psychobroker wrote:Ebanks looks like if he lost ~5-10 pounds he'd be even quicker off his feet.

I hope he doesn't lose any pounds. The guy is 6'9, 210. I say he should gain about 5-10 more. If he stays in the league, he'll be going up against Melo, LeBron, PP, etc. We say Kobe was forced to defend Carmelo because Trevor was too small to defend him. Although we have Ron, Ron is going to need his rest from time to time, especially as he gets older.

TT24 wrote:

Psychobroker wrote:Ebanks looks like if he lost ~5-10 pounds he'd be even quicker off his feet.

I hope he doesn't lose any pounds. The guy is 6'9, 210. I say he should gain about 5-10 more. If he stays in the league, he'll be going up against Melo, LeBron, PP, etc. We say Kobe was forced to defend Carmelo because Trevor was too small to defend him. Although we have Ron, Ron is going to need his rest from time to time, especially as he gets older.

Dang, he doesn't look only 210.. nvm then.

^ Lol. He doesn't? From afar, the guy looks sick. He needs some weight. But he's 20? 21? He should grow into his body and get a little bigger. Good thing LA has been hitting the weight room the past 2 years, so if he makes the team, he'll be in there as well.

See HDTV highlights here.

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