BEANS TEAM >>>> DREAM TEAM!!!

Postby KOBEhastheMAGIC on Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:03 pm

L4L wrote:Kobe can't cancel Mike out...

The story ends in the front-court and why even try to argue any differently? Ewing, Malone, Barkley, D-Rob... They would DESTROY Redeem team. Prime D-Rob is nearly as athletic as Dwight except longer, taller, and FAR FAR more skilled. Ewing or Bosh... Tough decision. :man10:

Don't tell me people actually think that Chris Mullin isn't better than Michael Redd? Mullin was 1st Team All-NBA in 91-92. Clyde might struggle to guard Wade, but no way in hell midget D-Wade can even contest 6'7" Clyde the Glyde's shot.

I mean come on guys.. The level of homerism is off the charts.


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Postby L4L on Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:55 am

Yeah, sure. He could...

If he brought a weapon to pre-game.
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Postby Lakers Dynasty Reborn on Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:24 am

kidvideo wrote:
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What about these two players careers has led you to believe that they would have 'cancelled each other out' ?


Well one may be the most prolific scoring player in the history of the NBA, doing things no other player in our modern era has done.

The Other may be the greatest Player of all time Himself.

I'm sure one would not have the advantage over the other.


Aren't the first two the same guy?
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Postby OCHO on Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:48 am

put simply.. at every position, the dream team had THE best player selected.. besides maybe christian but for a 12th man he's not too shabby either :man11:
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Postby kidvideo on Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:17 am

OCHO wrote:put simply.. at every position, the dream team had THE best player selected.. besides maybe christian but for a 12th man he's not too shabby either :man11:


I guess, except you could argue that Kevin Johnson was the best all around point guard at that time. He was preety much a 20 pt 10 assists player, so he probably should have gotten the nod over Stockton.

Should have had Shaq of Laetnerr.
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Postby KGB on Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:10 am

grego wrote:Man this thread is a joke. Seriously, people forgot just how good that dream team was. Heck, they would not have even let Spain breathe in that Gold medal game.

Punk-101 wrote:would have destroyed Bosh and Boozer. Howard is the only one who could have guarded them.


If Howard is the only one, they are doomed. Howard is decent at best in individual defense. That's his weakest area on the defensive end.
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Postby Congo Cash on Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:52 pm

It all starts and ends with bigs...

Robinson, Ewing, Malone >>>>>>>>>>. D12, Bosh and Loozer...

Kobe would not cancel out 1992 Michael Jordan...

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Postby karacha on Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:05 pm

We already discussed this and came to the following conclusion:

Dream Team >>> Redeem team.

Old "bigs" would totally abuse Dwight & Co. as mentioned before. Bosh and Booz would end up in a hospital after battling D-Rob and Malone. We voted, and the result was: Dream Team wins easily.
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Postby Lakers Dynasty Reborn on Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:33 am

Kobe would once again be the difference. His individual defense would allow the rest of the team to take over just like they did in this years tourney. He simply provides a presense that makes the whole team go. His role wouldn't be that of a main scorer or playmaker or even that of a facilitator. He'd be the "in case of" guy- just like this year. I don't see the current team losing with Kobe in the lineup.
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Postby KB24 on Sun Sep 21, 2008 7:00 am

Lakers Dynasty Reborn wrote:Kobe would once again be the difference. His individual defense would allow the rest of the team to take over just like they did in this years tourney. He simply provides a presense that makes the whole team go. His role wouldn't be that of a main scorer or playmaker or even that of a facilitator. He'd be the "in case of" guy- just like this year. I don't see the current team losing with Kobe in the lineup.
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so you can't see a team losing with Kobe on it but you can see prime MJ, prime Malone, prime Robinson, Bird, Magic, Pippen, and all those guys go down....

the team this year was very good...but come on...even Spain was able to keep it close untill the last few minutes.
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Postby funkychunky on Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:59 pm

The Dream Team bigs absolutely destroy ours. D12 and CB4 are very, very undersized compared to D-Rob and Ewing. LOL at LBJ/Carmelo and Boozer trying to guard Barkley and Malone.

But on the perimeter...

I say the Redeem Team wins.

From nbadraft.net:
Athleticism: The Dream Team had some incredible athletes (Jordan, Drexler, Pippen, and Robinson), but they cannot run with the Redeem Team. This is where 2008's youth will benefit them. Bird, Mullin, Laettner, Stockton (injured), Magic, and Ewing could never hope to run with this team, so their minutes would have to be limited. Furthermore, no one on the Dream Team possessed the combination of size, strength, speed, and agility that LeBron does. He would be a nightmare for them.

Advantage: Redeem Team

Perimeter: Jordan is the best player of all-time; he wins a match-up against any player on the Redeem Team. Kidd at 35 vs. an injured John Stockton is a wash. After that, it's hard not to give the advantage to 2008. As mentioned above, LeBron would give every perimeter player on the Dream Team fits. And with the way Dwyane Wade looked in these Games, it's not unreasonable to think that he'd be an impossible guard for the older guards and wings trying to match up with him. Neither Bird nor Magic could defend anyone opposing them except for Redd or Prince (and they wouldn't play in this game, so it wouldn't matter). Paul and Williams would give two very different looks at the point.





Dwyane Wade

Advantage: Redeem Team

Frontcourt: Barkley, Malone, Ewing, and Robinson vs. Howard, Bosh, and Boozer. It's not close.

Advantage: Dream Team

Half-court Offense: It might be that the Redeem Team didn't have to play in the half-court all that much, but they lacked the shooting and post play to be as effective as the Dream Team in this area. The question is whether or not they would allow the pace of the game to slow down and let the Dream Team play this style of basketball.

Advantage: Dream Team

Chemistry: With such a collection of veteran superstars, the Dream Team didn't need much chemistry to succeed against such inferior competition. But against the Redeem Team? This 2008 squad has been playing together for three years and has gotten to know each other much better than the Dream Team did. In a game between these two teams, chemistry would be a huge concern.

Advantage: Redeem Team

International Experience: It truly is a different brand of basketball when played under FIBA rules. The fact that these guys have been getting to know the international rules over the past few years gives them an advantage. Furthermore, the level of competition is much higher overseas than it was when the Dream Team was winning by 40 every game. According to NBA.com, these Olympics featured 42 NBA Players (including drafted players that have yet to come over); in 1992, there were less than ten. The Redeem Team faced more NBA talent in one game against Spain than the Dream Team did in the entire Olympics. More international experience + better international competition =

Advantage: Redeem Team


Conclusion: The Dream Team is still the best team ever assembled on paper, but that is all in hindsight. That is strictly looking at the names on a page and taking into account what those players did over the course of their entire careers. This 2008 US Olympic team is very young and, by the time their all done, they will probably have similar statistical accomplishments and accolades. On the court, the older Dream Team would have a very difficult time matching the youth, energy, and athleticism of the Redeem Team. The young guards of 2008 would give the elder statesmen of 1992 a great deal of trouble. Finally, don't let the statistics fool you: If you put the Dream Team's performance in Barcelona side-by-side with the Redeem Team's Beijing campaign, the Dream Team is better in every team statistical category, but it is against much worse competition. The game has changed a great deal over the years, and this 2008 team is simply better suited to win.


I agree with everything this guy said. I have a hunch that the writer was a LeBron homer though. Not enough credit to Kobe, also.
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Postby therealdeal on Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:45 am

funkychunky wrote:The Dream Team bigs absolutely destroy ours. D12 and CB4 are very, very undersized compared to D-Rob and Ewing. LOL at LBJ/Carmelo and Boozer trying to guard Barkley and Malone.

But on the perimeter...

I say the Redeem Team wins.

From nbadraft.net:
Athleticism: The Dream Team had some incredible athletes (Jordan, Drexler, Pippen, and Robinson), but they cannot run with the Redeem Team. This is where 2008's youth will benefit them. Bird, Mullin, Laettner, Stockton (injured), Magic, and Ewing could never hope to run with this team, so their minutes would have to be limited. Furthermore, no one on the Dream Team possessed the combination of size, strength, speed, and agility that LeBron does. He would be a nightmare for them.

Advantage: Redeem Team

Perimeter: Jordan is the best player of all-time; he wins a match-up against any player on the Redeem Team. Kidd at 35 vs. an injured John Stockton is a wash. After that, it's hard not to give the advantage to 2008. As mentioned above, LeBron would give every perimeter player on the Dream Team fits. And with the way Dwyane Wade looked in these Games, it's not unreasonable to think that he'd be an impossible guard for the older guards and wings trying to match up with him. Neither Bird nor Magic could defend anyone opposing them except for Redd or Prince (and they wouldn't play in this game, so it wouldn't matter). Paul and Williams would give two very different looks at the point.





Dwyane Wade

Advantage: Redeem Team

Frontcourt: Barkley, Malone, Ewing, and Robinson vs. Howard, Bosh, and Boozer. It's not close.

Advantage: Dream Team

Half-court Offense: It might be that the Redeem Team didn't have to play in the half-court all that much, but they lacked the shooting and post play to be as effective as the Dream Team in this area. The question is whether or not they would allow the pace of the game to slow down and let the Dream Team play this style of basketball.

Advantage: Dream Team

Chemistry: With such a collection of veteran superstars, the Dream Team didn't need much chemistry to succeed against such inferior competition. But against the Redeem Team? This 2008 squad has been playing together for three years and has gotten to know each other much better than the Dream Team did. In a game between these two teams, chemistry would be a huge concern.

Advantage: Redeem Team

International Experience: It truly is a different brand of basketball when played under FIBA rules. The fact that these guys have been getting to know the international rules over the past few years gives them an advantage. Furthermore, the level of competition is much higher overseas than it was when the Dream Team was winning by 40 every game. According to NBA.com, these Olympics featured 42 NBA Players (including drafted players that have yet to come over); in 1992, there were less than ten. The Redeem Team faced more NBA talent in one game against Spain than the Dream Team did in the entire Olympics. More international experience + better international competition =

Advantage: Redeem Team


Conclusion: The Dream Team is still the best team ever assembled on paper, but that is all in hindsight. That is strictly looking at the names on a page and taking into account what those players did over the course of their entire careers. This 2008 US Olympic team is very young and, by the time their all done, they will probably have similar statistical accomplishments and accolades. On the court, the older Dream Team would have a very difficult time matching the youth, energy, and athleticism of the Redeem Team. The young guards of 2008 would give the elder statesmen of 1992 a great deal of trouble. Finally, don't let the statistics fool you: If you put the Dream Team's performance in Barcelona side-by-side with the Redeem Team's Beijing campaign, the Dream Team is better in every team statistical category, but it is against much worse competition. The game has changed a great deal over the years, and this 2008 team is simply better suited to win.


I agree with everything this guy said. I have a hunch that the writer was a LeBron homer though. Not enough credit to Kobe, also.


That article f**king sucked. Whoever wrote it conveniently forgot that KOBE BRYANT is on that team. They were too busy wetting themselves over Lebron James and Dwayne Wade ( unguardable from the Dream Team? :man10: )
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