GoldMedalGame: 8/24 USA vs Spain - Predictions/Comments

Postby The Rock on Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:59 am

so does this mean we get 12 gold medals added to the medal count table?
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Postby KB24 on Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:03 am

MDI wrote:so does this mean we get 12 gold medals added to the medal count table?
no :man11:
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Postby assassin08 on Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:05 am

MDI wrote:so does this mean we get 12 gold medals added to the medal count table?


No, it counts as 1, since it's still just one sport of one gender.

Think of the U.S. men's swimming team winning the relays, even though they had 4 people, that only counted as 1 medal.
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Postby GinoDB on Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:10 am

KB24@CL wrote:
MDI wrote:so does this mean we get 12 gold medals added to the medal count table?
no :man11:


why the :man11: face?

hes asking a legit question, no need for that
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Postby KB24 on Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:31 am

GinoDB wrote:
KB24@CL wrote:
MDI wrote:so does this mean we get 12 gold medals added to the medal count table?
no :man11:


why the :man11: face?

hes asking a legit question, no need for that


actually :man11: is not necessarily negative facial expression. It was just that I thought the idea is funny.
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Postby CrazyLikeCatfish on Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:58 am

KB24@CL wrote:
GinoDB wrote:
KB24@CL wrote:
MDI wrote:so does this mean we get 12 gold medals added to the medal count table?
no :man11:


why the :man11: face?

hes asking a legit question, no need for that


actually :man11: is not necessarily negative facial expression. It was just that I thought the idea is funny.
We'd have so many golds, lol. 24 for basketball, men and women, shoooot.

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Postby bokeron on Sun Aug 24, 2008 1:40 pm

As I've asked in some other thread... do the NBA refs allow hand checking to european players ? If not, why not ?
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Postby KB24 on Sun Aug 24, 2008 1:48 pm

bokeron wrote:As I've asked in some other thread... do the NBA refs allow hand checking to european players ? If not, why not ?


because that would be a significant advantage for European players...

but obviously, Spain fans are sooo hurt about the loss, they just want to argue some peanuts facts...

the best/most talented team won the tournament. stop snitching and just accept that Spain isn't as good as USA...its not a shame...

goodness gracious.

the travel is not something USA used to get to the lane and convert easy layups...they mostly travel when they recieve the outlet pass on the fly. Its not like they take a great advantage that would decide a game or anything.
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Postby bokeron on Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:02 pm

So ... that would be a significant advantage for european players ... but not calling a single travelling is "peanuts facts". Funny.

Man, read my post. I KNOW the US is the best team. It's always been, and it's undeniable. Who's saying otherwise ? We just claim that it is unfair to play by different rules, depending if you're NBA or not. Let's play by NBA rules, I dont give a damn, but the same rules for ALL.

Really, is that difficult to understand ? Why haven't the same rules been applied to Lithuania, Argentina, Russia, Angola, Greece, China... ?

Why have the us team has to receive special treatment form the FIBA refferees, if the european player doesn't get the same tratment form NBA reffs ?
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Postby 1_Paranoik_6 on Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:03 pm

I think that the conversation Spanish fans vs USA fans is stupid... USA won, we (Spain) lost. We should be happy to get 100 points and lose by 11 against the best USA selection of the last decade.

Congratulation again
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Postby bokeron on Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:19 pm

It doesn't mean I am not happy. But when I read some comments from us fans about the reffs... it was more than I could stand.

Man... the us team doesn even have the same antidoping tests... ridiculous.
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Postby ThizGuy83 on Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:19 pm

this olympics would of been the only chance the world would get for a shot at gold...cuz team usa's only weakness was size...but since we are just so damn good...it doesnt matter...now imagine when the next olympics come...and when most of these players come back with an even more polished game and add oden and more than likely bynum.....just wow...nuff said...
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Postby Ras Algethi on Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:20 pm

1_Paranoik_6 wrote:I think that the conversation Spanish fans vs USA fans is stupid... USA won, we (Spain) lost. We should be happy to get 100 points and lose by 11 against the best USA selection of the last decade.

Congratulation again


Good man. You guys have nothing to be ashamed about. I think you earned the respect of the world. Well played.
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Postby DejanBodiroga on Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:41 pm

Orphebus wrote:Most Spanish fans are not this way. We just enjoyed a good game and we are proud of a spanish team that was able to provide some serious opposition against a blatantly superior team that stormed all their rivals all along the competition. I personally find quite lousy to spam the forums of the rival fans trying to spoil their well deserved fun.

It's true that the game was not well officiated. Most of you are not used to the FIBA rules. For example, they manage contacts in a different way (that's the reason some USA fans see some charge calls as unfair) and with FIBA rules you must throw the ball to the floor before you take the first step to avoid a travelling violation. If you have played basketball, you'll know that doing this will allow you to play faster and to beat your defender more easily. So, being very strict, the USA team commit a traveling violation every other play :P

But it's also true that american players are not used to these rules and it does not make sense to be strict with the calls, so I call it a fair game :)

USA overwhelmed every opponent they met and they deserve 100% their gold medal. Congrats to all USA fans :bow:

BTW, I listened to all the post game interviews and none of the Spanish players said that (except Rudy Fernandez after being asked about the traveling issue). MARCA is a very sensationalist newspaper and nobody in Spain take it seriously :man13:
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Postby bystander on Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:35 pm

LOL at the narrator of both videos,

same play, rudy's dunk,

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Postby LDR on Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:37 pm

1_Paranoik_6 wrote:I think that the conversation Spanish fans vs USA fans is stupid... USA won, we (Spain) lost. We should be happy to get 100 points and lose by 11 against the best USA selection of the last decade.

Congratulation again


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Postby slimjim on Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:47 pm

after watching the game, all I can say is.

Ricky Rubio and Rudy Fernandez are going to be very good players in the nba.

I can't believe Rubio is only 17 years old... while the box score doesn't really indicate it, he can definitely hold his own amongst the NBA stars.
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Postby BDG on Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:49 pm

I've already removed a bunch of officiating related comments.

Again, this thread is meant to discuss a great game and celebrate the Team USA victory.

If you want to whine over officiating, do it here: http://www.clublakers.com/forums/offici ... 01321.html
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Postby jimbo327 on Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:19 pm

Orphebus wrote:Most Spanish fans are not this way. We just enjoyed a good game and we are proud of a spanish team that was able to provide some serious opposition against a blatantly superior team that stormed all their rivals all along the competition. I personally find quite lousy to spam the forums of the rival fans trying to spoil their well deserved fun.

It's true that the game was not well officiated. Most of you are not used to the FIBA rules. For example, they manage contacts in a different way (that's the reason some USA fans see some charge calls as unfair) and with FIBA rules you must throw the ball to the floor before you take the first step to avoid a travelling violation. If you have played basketball, you'll know that doing this will allow you to play faster and to beat your defender more easily. So, being very strict, the USA team commit a traveling violation every other play :P

But it's also true that american players are not used to these rules and it does not make sense to be strict with the calls, so I call it a fair game :)

USA overwhelmed every opponent they met and they deserve 100% their gold medal. Congrats to all USA fans :bow:

BTW, I listened to all the post game interviews and none of the Spanish players said that (except Rudy Fernandez after being asked about the traveling issue). MARCA is a very sensationalist newspaper and nobody in Spain take it seriously :man13:


Well, that's because Spain is not the favorite to win. Americans feel the same way about soccer, we will be happy if the USA soccer team make a good showing in the World Cup. But would Spanish fans feel OK if US beat them in soccer. As you can see, it is all relative to expectations. There was a lot of pressure for Team USA basketball to win, whereas there is no pressure for Spain. In soccer, it would be totally different feeling.
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Postby bystander on Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:30 pm

http://theassociation.blogs.com/the_ass ... ching.html

A rumor going around the Olympic Village is that Fernandez was caught wearing a "I went to the 2008 Olympics and all I got was this lousy tee shirt and a prostate exam" shirt.


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Postby Helljumper on Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:33 pm

Wow, the day Kobe wins the gold is 8/24
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Postby scissors on Sun Aug 24, 2008 7:55 pm

if the gold medal game was a 7 game series, would team U.S. sweep the series?
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Postby CrazyLikeCatfish on Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:01 pm

slimjim wrote:after watching the game, all I can say is.

Ricky Rubio and Rudy Fernandez are going to be very good players in the nba.

I can't believe Rubio is only 17 years old... while the box score doesn't really indicate it, he can definitely hold his own amongst the NBA stars.
Yeah, I agree, they're really good. Friggin' portland. Navarro was tearing it up out there too, too bad he's leaving Memphis to go overseas.



Helljumper wrote:Wow, the day Kobe wins the gold is 8/24
That's an interesting observation, HJ. Crazy.
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Postby CaCHooKa Man on Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:40 pm

scissors wrote:if the gold medal game was a 7 game series, would team U.S. sweep the series?


most definitely. the only team they might lose a couple games to in a 7 game series would be the original 92 dream team.
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Postby jlkr on Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:31 pm

CaCHooKa Man wrote:
scissors wrote:if the gold medal game was a 7 game series, would team U.S. sweep the series?


most definitely. the only team they might lose a couple games to in a 7 game series would be the original 92 dream team.

The original 92 Dream Team would beat this one. The one weakness this team had, the 92 team had in spades: strong, physical post players. Barkley, Malone, Robinson and Ewing would have killed this team inside. This team's perimeter skill would probably not have been enough to overcome the disadvantage in the post given that the Dream Teamers also had their own perimeter stars in Drexler, Jordan and Pippen at the top of their games.
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