Wade or LeBron one has to go off USA team

Who would you take off the team?

Wade
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Bron
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Postby TXLAKERFAN on Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:22 pm

LukeWalton wrote:Neither are going anywhere. Their both the face of Team USA right now.



Of course they are Stern's golden boys, but Melo is by far showing he is a better player than those two. Arenas should have made this team before Wade did he is a better shooter and plays better defense.
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Postby Perfecto on Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:34 pm

you dont actually have to replace one of them...

just put one on the bench and when they are in need for some scoring put wade or lebron in.

kobe is gonna be there so thats were the main scoring is gonna go. and maybe he might light it up from the 3

but very true we need a michael redd kinda player or joe johnson needs to hit his threes
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Postby Azndude2190 on Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:18 pm

Honestly I truely love both players...but both can and need to go.Keep Anthony.Replace Wade with Kobe.And Redd with LBJ.
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Postby Massacre on Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:21 pm

LeBron stays, Wade goes.
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Postby Weezy on Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:11 pm

I remember Odom being one of the only players that was doing consistenly well at the last World Championships, they should bring Odom back for the Olympics. I know Kobe will be there so if Wade or LeBron has to go I say Wade, he just didn't do that well in any games I saw. I saw many games where LeBron was soaring and scoring at will though, he's a monster at times. Kobe and LeBron would be great together I think, much better than Wade and Bron.
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Postby LO7cK35 on Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:10 pm

i havent read what no one said but i saw the results of the polls and everyone here is only hating on wade. wade clearly has been the better on the team thus far. him and carmelo were the two main reasons they were still alive towards the end. lebron wasn't really to be found. he had a couple nice plays but wade was much more effective. if one really has to go it would have to be bron instead of wade without question
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Postby ladam24 on Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:11 pm

shoe wrote:
Iceberg Slim wrote:
Real Deal wrote:Replace Wade with Redd. Wade turns the ball over countless times, can't dunk anymore, and he can't defend anyone at all.



Wade can't dunk anymore... :man3:



he missed 3 dunks today


Those 3 dunks translates into 6 points, translates into final score of 101-101, tranlates into overtime.

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Postby strikemode14 on Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:18 pm

I take off Wade. Simply put his game doesn't fit the int'l game.
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Postby Real Deal on Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:29 pm

Iceberg Slim wrote:
Real Deal wrote:Replace Wade with Redd. Wade turns the ball over countless times, can't dunk anymore, and he can't defend anyone at all.



Wade can't dunk anymore... :man3:

If you watched the game, you'd know why I said that.
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Postby LO7cK35 on Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:39 pm

Real Deal wrote:
Iceberg Slim wrote:
Real Deal wrote:Replace Wade with Redd. Wade turns the ball over countless times, can't dunk anymore, and he can't defend anyone at all.



Wade can't dunk anymore... :man3:

If you watched the game, you'd know why I said that.


i watched it and even though he missed a couple dunks at the end, not to mention he got fouled on them, i still saw him doing a lot more then lebron.
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Postby slimjim on Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:58 pm

Real Deal wrote:
Iceberg Slim wrote:
Real Deal wrote:Replace Wade with Redd. Wade turns the ball over countless times, can't dunk anymore, and he can't defend anyone at all.



Wade can't dunk anymore... :man3:

If you watched the game, you'd know why I said that.


doesn't mean he can't dunk... come on...
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Postby Real Deal on Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:20 pm

slimjim wrote:
Real Deal wrote:
Iceberg Slim wrote:
Real Deal wrote:Replace Wade with Redd. Wade turns the ball over countless times, can't dunk anymore, and he can't defend anyone at all.



Wade can't dunk anymore... :man3:

If you watched the game, you'd know why I said that.


doesn't mean he can't dunk... come on...

Have you read something similar to this?

"Man, he can't even shoot the ball."

Oh, but...actually, he can shoot. Maybe at the time, he can't.

"Araujo is a terrible player."

So terrible that he's a professional player.

"Slava does nothing for our team."

Well...apparently, he does...he has statistics and minutes.

When I say Wade can't dunk, I don't mean he seriously can't go up and dunk the ball.

Nevermind.
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Postby slimjim on Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:00 pm

^
i understand what you're saying

but why bother saying it?

you want him off and replaced with redd, you say all that he can't dunk/defend stuff like that

than you say "not seriously" speaking

that makes your whole post pointless.
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Postby TalkieWalkie on Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:35 pm

slimjim wrote:^
i understand what you're saying

but why bother saying it?



Why continue to argue? He made a valid point....don't try to clime out of your hole of sheepishness to reclaim your pride. Pride= the devil.... be a man..
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Postby Real Deal on Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:51 pm

slimjim wrote:^
i understand what you're saying

but why bother saying it?

you want him off and replaced with redd, you say all that he can't dunk/defend stuff like that

than you say "not seriously" speaking

that makes your whole post pointless.

slimjim wrote:every possesson on offence he had his hands out ready to receive the ball but no one passed to him

Talking about Kwame Brown. Every single possession, huh? It wasn't true, because I have the game. Pointless post?
slimjim wrote:not after sunday's performance... yuck!

Response to a question asking if Odom is an All-Star. One game ruined it for him? A game in December? Pointless post?
slimjim wrote:nah, the way i see it... dunking in europe is nothing

But...a dunk is a high-percentage shot, and it's two points, so technically, it's something. Pointless post?
slimjim wrote:also have you noticed that smush never passes to kwame? i've noticed it for like a month now....

Are you sure? I bet he has before. Pointless post?
slimjim wrote:there are many shooters who can't defend in the league like adam

Adam Morrison can defend, just not very well. Pointless post?

A few posts right there...I really don't need to go in and find more, I suppose.
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Postby Real Deal on Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:53 pm

LO7cK35 wrote:i watched it and even though he missed a couple dunks at the end, not to mention he got fouled on them, i still saw him doing a lot more then lebron.

Wade has been a turnover machine since putting on the USA jersey. LeBron is more valuable than Wade.
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Postby jjin28 on Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:16 am

BOTH ARE VALUABLE....Lets be realisticboth desreeves to be on tthe team consiedring all the players that are willing to play right now.... come on...be fair...
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Postby KB24 on Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:25 am

I take my man Mac over both of those 2. Tracy is one of the main reasons we won the 2000 olympics.

time to bring Kobe and T-Mac back. Both can shoot over defenses from anywhere on the floor and abuse zone defenses. Wade cannot shoot over anything. His only move is a stop and pop and his sometimes (copied from Kobe) fake. But all of his points come from fast breaks and penetration layups. He needs to get off this team and realize it ain´t about talent. Its about a system he doesn´t fit in.

LeBron also doesn´t fit. He cannot defend euros and he cannot score against those zone defenses. Yet his size and his versatility could be some usefull.

We need some guards with defensive mind set and good touch from the outside. Kobe, T-Mac, Allen, Redd, Arenas, Billups

We also need bigmen that can hit a 15 footer. Howard is great but all about dunks. Brand is good but not great. We need Jermaine O´Neal, Amare, Marion, KG,

Euro game is all about being able to defend the jumpshot and shoot.
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Postby Real Deal on Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:01 am

KB8@CL wrote:Wade cannot shoot over anything.

OMG I beg to differ! He can shoot over a rabbit. That's something.

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Postby nameant on Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:48 am

:man10: owned.
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Postby dj vitus on Sat Sep 02, 2006 5:09 am

Laker4Ever wrote:Three words...Duncan, Bryant, Shaq. Unless we would've seen those three laced up and stepping on the court, we were gonna be hard pressed to win this thing. Regardless if you take Wade or Lebron off or not.

No longer can we relish in the days of plentiful big men, overpowering and dominating the competition. Where were the days of David Robinson, Karl Malone, Patrick Ewing, Charles Barkley, Hakeem "The Dream" Olajuwon, and of course the Shaq daddy?..... Back then, almost half the team consisted of dominating big men!

In 2000, Garnett was the lone sitting duck. We almost lost 3 games.. with a missed 3-pointer from losing Gold!

Last time around, Tim Duncan was surrounded by ball hogs and inexperienced talent. He picked the wrong year to win the gold.

This year would have been it.

And where the heck are Shaq and Garnett anyway? Lack of interest? Oh well. Superheros can't always save the world, right?
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Postby KB24 on Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:12 am

Thrillseeker wrote:
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LO7cK35 wrote:i watched it and even though he missed a couple dunks at the end, not to mention he got fouled on them, i still saw him doing a lot more then lebron.

Wade has been a turnover machine since putting on the USA jersey. LeBron is more valuable than Wade.


Lebron has more turnover than Wade, mr. Expert.:)

He also handles the ball 3 times as much as Wade. Wade has barely been the playmaker in this tournament.

Wade when driving to the hoop is a waiting TO to happen in this tounament and against these zone Ds.
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Postby LALShowtime on Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:41 am

wow so much Wade hating going on

He didn't play up to par vs. Greece but was on fire on the defensive and the offensive side vs. Argentina.

The Trust of the matter is no coach in thier right mind would cut Wade, no coach on their right mind would cut LeBron.
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Postby Thrillseeker on Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:58 am

KB8@CL wrote:
Thrillseeker wrote:
Real Deal wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:i watched it and even though he missed a couple dunks at the end, not to mention he got fouled on them, i still saw him doing a lot more then lebron.

Wade has been a turnover machine since putting on the USA jersey. LeBron is more valuable than Wade.


Lebron has more turnover than Wade, mr. Expert.:)

He also handles the ball 3 times as much as Wade. Wade has barely been the playmaker in this tournament.

Wade when driving to the hoop is a waiting TO to happen in this tounament and against these zone Ds.


Wade was weak, LeBron too, but Coach K was the weakest link, i think. Howard played an awesome game against Greece, but he didn't play the second half. That was a huge mistake. And the team defense was horrible. The team need Bryant, because he is the ideal leader, but the biggest problem was Krzyewski's bad job. Bad defense conception and bad substitutions, not Bryant's absence.

But that's my opinion and i hope, Kobe will avalaible in 2007 (qualify tournament) and 2008.
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Postby KB24 on Sat Sep 02, 2006 7:09 am

Thrillseeker wrote:
KB8@CL wrote:
Thrillseeker wrote:
Real Deal wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:i watched it and even though he missed a couple dunks at the end, not to mention he got fouled on them, i still saw him doing a lot more then lebron.

Wade has been a turnover machine since putting on the USA jersey. LeBron is more valuable than Wade.


Lebron has more turnover than Wade, mr. Expert.:)

He also handles the ball 3 times as much as Wade. Wade has barely been the playmaker in this tournament.

Wade when driving to the hoop is a waiting TO to happen in this tounament and against these zone Ds.


Wade was weak, LeBron too, but Coach K was the weakest link, i think. Howard played an awesome game against Greece, but he didn't play the second half. That was a huge mistake. And the team defense was horrible. The team need Bryant, because he is the ideal leader, but the biggest problem was Krzyewski's bad job. Bad defense conception and bad substitutions, not Bryant's absence.

But that's my opinion and i hope, Kobe will avalaible in 2007 (qualify tournament) and 2008.


I agree with you. IMO Brand was trash,Howard played a lot better. Specially Brand gets BURNED on pick and roll every time. Bosh is a chump too. Only real bigman that cloggs the lane effectively is Howard. Coach K was HEAVILY criticized here in Germany for his desicion to not make any adjustments.

He never played with 2 bigmen at the same time. He always played Battier or Melo or James at PF. I think team USA made a lot of mistakes. Yes they can´t shoot but their team defense was horrific.
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