Thrillseeker wrote:

Real Deal wrote:

LO7cK35 wrote:i watched it and even though he missed a couple dunks at the end, not to mention he got fouled on them, i still saw him doing a lot more then lebron.

Wade has been a turnover machine since putting on the USA jersey. LeBron is more valuable than Wade.

Lebron has more turnover than Wade, mr. Expert.:)

WestCoast21 wrote:In Order to win, USA needs

Bryant/James/Wade/Anthony. whether they come off the bench or not, USA needs them. and why is that? because they are the best players in the NBA. The next time team USA plays, everyone will be more experienced.

The problem with USA basketball is some of the stars dont wanna give up their time playing for team USA. Duncan/Garnett/Shaq to name some. If those guys play for the team, there is no doubt in my mind that USA takes the gold.

KB8@CL wrote:

Thrillseeker wrote:

Real Deal wrote:

LO7cK35 wrote:i watched it and even though he missed a couple dunks at the end, not to mention he got fouled on them, i still saw him doing a lot more then lebron.

Wade has been a turnover machine since putting on the USA jersey. LeBron is more valuable than Wade.

Lebron has more turnover than Wade, mr. Expert.:)

He also handles the ball 3 times as much as Wade. Wade has barely been the playmaker in this tournament.

Wade when driving to the hoop is a waiting TO to happen in this tounament and against these zone Ds.

LO7cK35 wrote:

KB8@CL wrote:

Thrillseeker wrote:

Real Deal wrote:

LO7cK35 wrote:i watched it and even though he missed a couple dunks at the end, not to mention he got fouled on them, i still saw him doing a lot more then lebron.

Wade has been a turnover machine since putting on the USA jersey. LeBron is more valuable than Wade.

Lebron has more turnover than Wade, mr. Expert.:)

He also handles the ball 3 times as much as Wade. Wade has barely been the playmaker in this tournament.

Wade when driving to the hoop is a waiting TO to happen in this tounament and against these zone Ds.

you guys should be watching every game before you say anything about them. wade has easily been the better player in this tournament. and most of his turnovers come when usa is already up by 50 anyway and the U.S. is throwing alley oops to each other and more flashy passes. wade has not been the only one either. Lebron has almost been a non factor in this tournament and wade had been a difference maker throughout. Carmelo clearly outshined Lebron throughout the tourney. however wade and carmelo can play together and play together well.

if you have to choose between 2 players to go it would be between lebron and melo and no one after carmelos performance would keep lebron over wade on this team.

that poll is clearly irrelevant because its people choosing wade to go since he is less popular not because of his play

Real Deal wrote:

slimjim wrote:^
i understand what you're saying

but why bother saying it?

you want him off and replaced with redd, you say all that he can't dunk/defend stuff like that

than you say "not seriously" speaking

that makes your whole post pointless.

slimjim wrote:every possesson on offence he had his hands out ready to receive the ball but no one passed to him

Talking about Kwame Brown. Every single possession, huh? It wasn't true, because I have the game. Pointless post?

slimjim wrote:not after sunday's performance... yuck!

Response to a question asking if Odom is an All-Star. One game ruined it for him? A game in December? Pointless post?

slimjim wrote:nah, the way i see it... dunking in europe is nothing

But...a dunk is a high-percentage shot, and it's two points, so technically, it's something. Pointless post?

slimjim wrote:also have you noticed that smush never passes to kwame? i've noticed it for like a month now....

Are you sure? I bet he has before. Pointless post?

slimjim wrote:there are many shooters who can't defend in the league like adam

Adam Morrison can defend, just not very well. Pointless post?

A few posts right there...I really don't need to go in and find more, I suppose.

TXLAKERFAN wrote:

LO7cK35 wrote:

KB8@CL wrote:

Thrillseeker wrote:

Real Deal wrote:

LO7cK35 wrote:i watched it and even though he missed a couple dunks at the end, not to mention he got fouled on them, i still saw him doing a lot more then lebron.

Wade has been a turnover machine since putting on the USA jersey. LeBron is more valuable than Wade.

Lebron has more turnover than Wade, mr. Expert.:)

He also handles the ball 3 times as much as Wade. Wade has barely been the playmaker in this tournament.

Wade when driving to the hoop is a waiting TO to happen in this tounament and against these zone Ds.

you guys should be watching every game before you say anything about them. wade has easily been the better player in this tournament. and most of his turnovers come when usa is already up by 50 anyway and the U.S. is throwing alley oops to each other and more flashy passes. wade has not been the only one either. Lebron has almost been a non factor in this tournament and wade had been a difference maker throughout. Carmelo clearly outshined Lebron throughout the tourney. however wade and carmelo can play together and play together well.

if you have to choose between 2 players to go it would be between lebron and melo and no one after carmelos performance would keep lebron over wade on this team.

that poll is clearly irrelevant because its people choosing wade to go since he is less popular not because of his play

You are sounding like the most bias person in here. The majority of Wade's point have come in the open court. What happened when we didn't have many open court oppurtunites against a decent team. His production went down. Well guess what happens in the finals rounds in the Olympics. Anybody could have been plugged into Wade's spot to get to the Semi's but getting there is not enough we need to win. I choose James because he is more likely to hit the jumpshot and has a bit more versatility on the court. How can you say its between Melo and Bron when Melo has clearly been the best player on the team by far. That right there lets me know that your biasness for Wade is overshadowing your judgement. Maybe you should look at the poll results and think to yourself maybe just maybe I am the one being bias.

kwamemvp wrote:Why even bother to make this poll ?

This is a Lakers forum, and Wade is hated cuz he won a ring alongide Shaq, people will obviously vote against him

LO7cK35 wrote:

KB8@CL wrote:

Thrillseeker wrote:

Real Deal wrote:

LO7cK35 wrote:i watched it and even though he missed a couple dunks at the end, not to mention he got fouled on them, i still saw him doing a lot more then lebron.

Wade has been a turnover machine since putting on the USA jersey. LeBron is more valuable than Wade.

Lebron has more turnover than Wade, mr. Expert.:)

He also handles the ball 3 times as much as Wade. Wade has barely been the playmaker in this tournament.

Wade when driving to the hoop is a waiting TO to happen in this tounament and against these zone Ds.

you guys should be watching every game before you say anything about them. wade has easily been the better player in this tournament. and most of his turnovers come when usa is already up by 50 anyway and the U.S. is throwing alley oops to each other and more flashy passes. wade has not been the only one either. Lebron has almost been a non factor in this tournament and wade had been a difference maker throughout. Carmelo clearly outshined Lebron throughout the tourney. however wade and carmelo can play together and play together well.

if you have to choose between 2 players to go it would be between lebron and melo and no one after carmelos performance would keep lebron over wade on this team.

that poll is clearly irrelevant because its people choosing wade to go since he is less popular not because of his play

shoe wrote:take off wade

all he does is turn it over

airball threes

miss freethrows

atleast lebron is a playmaker and a better shooter

Showtime_Magic32 wrote:

shoe wrote:take off wade

all he does is turn it over

airball threes

miss freethrows

atleast lebron is a playmaker and a better shooter

kwamemvp wrote:

Showtime_Magic32 wrote:

shoe wrote:take off wade

all he does is turn it over

airball threes

miss freethrows

atleast lebron is a playmaker and a better shooter

Guys get over wade winning a champiosnhip alongaide Shaq and a Finals MVP

This is getting old, th hate is insane

Real Deal wrote:

slimjim wrote:^
i understand what you're saying

but why bother saying it?

you want him off and replaced with redd, you say all that he can't dunk/defend stuff like that

than you say "not seriously" speaking

that makes your whole post pointless.

slimjim wrote:every possesson on offence he had his hands out ready to receive the ball but no one passed to him

Talking about Kwame Brown. Every single possession, huh? It wasn't true, because I have the game. Pointless post?

slimjim wrote:not after sunday's performance... yuck!

Response to a question asking if Odom is an All-Star. One game ruined it for him? A game in December? Pointless post?

slimjim wrote:nah, the way i see it... dunking in europe is nothing

But...a dunk is a high-percentage shot, and it's two points, so technically, it's something. Pointless post?

slimjim wrote:also have you noticed that smush never passes to kwame? i've noticed it for like a month now....

Are you sure? I bet he has before. Pointless post?

slimjim wrote:there are many shooters who can't defend in the league like adam

Adam Morrison can defend, just not very well. Pointless post?

A few posts right there...I really don't need to go in and find more, I suppose.

kwamemvp wrote:

Showtime_Magic32 wrote:

shoe wrote:take off wade

all he does is turn it over

airball threes

miss freethrows

atleast lebron is a playmaker and a better shooter

Guys get over wade winning a champiosnhip alongaide Shaq and a Finals MVP

This is getting old, th hate is insane

TXLAKERFAN wrote:

LO7cK35 wrote:

KB8@CL wrote:

Thrillseeker wrote:

Real Deal wrote:

LO7cK35 wrote:i watched it and even though he missed a couple dunks at the end, not to mention he got fouled on them, i still saw him doing a lot more then lebron.

Wade has been a turnover machine since putting on the USA jersey. LeBron is more valuable than Wade.

Lebron has more turnover than Wade, mr. Expert.:)

He also handles the ball 3 times as much as Wade. Wade has barely been the playmaker in this tournament.

Wade when driving to the hoop is a waiting TO to happen in this tounament and against these zone Ds.

you guys should be watching every game before you say anything about them. wade has easily been the better player in this tournament. and most of his turnovers come when usa is already up by 50 anyway and the U.S. is throwing alley oops to each other and more flashy passes. wade has not been the only one either. Lebron has almost been a non factor in this tournament and wade had been a difference maker throughout. Carmelo clearly outshined Lebron throughout the tourney. however wade and carmelo can play together and play together well.

if you have to choose between 2 players to go it would be between lebron and melo and no one after carmelos performance would keep lebron over wade on this team.

that poll is clearly irrelevant because its people choosing wade to go since he is less popular not because of his play

You are sounding like the most bias person in here. The majority of Wade's point have come in the open court. What happened when we didn't have many open court oppurtunites against a decent team. His production went down. Well guess what happens in the finals rounds in the Olympics. Anybody could have been plugged into Wade's spot to get to the Semi's but getting there is not enough we need to win. I choose James because he is more likely to hit the jumpshot and has a bit more versatility on the court. How can you say its between Melo and Bron when Melo has clearly been the best player on the team by far. That right there lets me know that your biasness for Wade is overshadowing your judgement. Maybe you should look at the poll results and think to yourself maybe just maybe I am the one being bias.

Orlando Tragic wrote:Wade is garbage. He has to go. There are so many other better all around PLAYERS not just douche bags who drive in and get and 1 all the time because the refs kiss their azzs

TXLAKERFAN wrote:

LukeWalton wrote:Neither are going anywhere. Their both the face of Team USA right now.

Of course they are Stern's golden boys, but Melo is by far showing he is a better player than those two. Arenas should have made this team before Wade did he is a better shooter and plays better defense.

TXLAKERFAN wrote:

kwamemvp wrote:Why even bother to make this poll ?

This is a Lakers forum, and Wade is hated cuz he won a ring alongide Shaq, people will obviously vote against him

If you would take the time to read the thread instead of making a post solely on the thread title you will see valid points were brought up.

LO7cK35 wrote:

TXLAKERFAN wrote:

LO7cK35 wrote:

KB8@CL wrote:

Thrillseeker wrote:

Real Deal wrote:

LO7cK35 wrote:i watched it and even though he missed a couple dunks at the end, not to mention he got fouled on them, i still saw him doing a lot more then lebron.

Wade has been a turnover machine since putting on the USA jersey. LeBron is more valuable than Wade.

Lebron has more turnover than Wade, mr. Expert.:)

He also handles the ball 3 times as much as Wade. Wade has barely been the playmaker in this tournament.

Wade when driving to the hoop is a waiting TO to happen in this tounament and against these zone Ds.

you guys should be watching every game before you say anything about them. wade has easily been the better player in this tournament. and most of his turnovers come when usa is already up by 50 anyway and the U.S. is throwing alley oops to each other and more flashy passes. wade has not been the only one either. Lebron has almost been a non factor in this tournament and wade had been a difference maker throughout. Carmelo clearly outshined Lebron throughout the tourney. however wade and carmelo can play together and play together well.

if you have to choose between 2 players to go it would be between lebron and melo and no one after carmelos performance would keep lebron over wade on this team.

that poll is clearly irrelevant because its people choosing wade to go since he is less popular not because of his play

You are sounding like the most bias person in here. The majority of Wade's point have come in the open court. What happened when we didn't have many open court oppurtunites against a decent team. His production went down. Well guess what happens in the finals rounds in the Olympics. Anybody could have been plugged into Wade's spot to get to the Semi's but getting there is not enough we need to win. I choose James because he is more likely to hit the jumpshot and has a bit more versatility on the court. How can you say its between Melo and Bron when Melo has clearly been the best player on the team by far. That right there lets me know that your biasness for Wade is overshadowing your judgement. Maybe you should look at the poll results and think to yourself maybe just maybe I am the one being bias.

im the only one here not biased. if lebron was was playing alongside shaq that poll would be completely the other way. wade has surpassed lebron in just about every category. if you dont believe me take a look at the stats. he has been a difference maker on the floor. and of course melo has been the best player i said that b4 the only reason i said it would have to be between him and bron is because they play the same position. wade is a guard why would he have to compete with a spot against lebron? but if that was the case wade has less minutes, less turnovers, and has only missed a handful of shots more than lebron. the fg% are almost equal. and your gonna tell me that you would take bron over wade?! in the last game (greece) shane battier was more effective than lebron. lebron drove a couple times, got fouled and missed free throws. however once you saw wade come in the game the tempo switched and US made a run again. and i cant talk much about the game today against argentina because i missed this one but as i have recapped about that game once again it was wade. anyone that would not be biased and clearly wanted the better player in this tournament would easily choose wade plain and simple.

http://www.usabasketball.com/seniormen/2006/06_mwc_cumulative_stats.html

compare the stats between lebron and melo and tell me again lebron y??

while your at it at the top of the page tell me who the only two high scoreres in these games were besides senegal

TXLAKERFAN wrote:

LO7cK35 wrote:

TXLAKERFAN wrote:

LO7cK35 wrote:

KB8@CL wrote:

Thrillseeker wrote:

Real Deal wrote:

LO7cK35 wrote:i watched it and even though he missed a couple dunks at the end, not to mention he got fouled on them, i still saw him doing a lot more then lebron.

Wade has been a turnover machine since putting on the USA jersey. LeBron is more valuable than Wade.

Lebron has more turnover than Wade, mr. Expert.:)

He also handles the ball 3 times as much as Wade. Wade has barely been the playmaker in this tournament.

Wade when driving to the hoop is a waiting TO to happen in this tounament and against these zone Ds.

you guys should be watching every game before you say anything about them. wade has easily been the better player in this tournament. and most of his turnovers come when usa is already up by 50 anyway and the U.S. is throwing alley oops to each other and more flashy passes. wade has not been the only one either. Lebron has almost been a non factor in this tournament and wade had been a difference maker throughout. Carmelo clearly outshined Lebron throughout the tourney. however wade and carmelo can play together and play together well.

if you have to choose between 2 players to go it would be between lebron and melo and no one after carmelos performance would keep lebron over wade on this team.

that poll is clearly irrelevant because its people choosing wade to go since he is less popular not because of his play

You are sounding like the most bias person in here. The majority of Wade's point have come in the open court. What happened when we didn't have many open court oppurtunites against a decent team. His production went down. Well guess what happens in the finals rounds in the Olympics. Anybody could have been plugged into Wade's spot to get to the Semi's but getting there is not enough we need to win. I choose James because he is more likely to hit the jumpshot and has a bit more versatility on the court. How can you say its between Melo and Bron when Melo has clearly been the best player on the team by far. That right there lets me know that your biasness for Wade is overshadowing your judgement. Maybe you should look at the poll results and think to yourself maybe just maybe I am the one being bias.

im the only one here not biased. if lebron was was playing alongside shaq that poll would be completely the other way. wade has surpassed lebron in just about every category. if you dont believe me take a look at the stats. he has been a difference maker on the floor. and of course melo has been the best player i said that b4 the only reason i said it would have to be between him and bron is because they play the same position. wade is a guard why would he have to compete with a spot against lebron? but if that was the case wade has less minutes, less turnovers, and has only missed a handful of shots more than lebron. the fg% are almost equal. and your gonna tell me that you would take bron over wade?! in the last game (greece) shane battier was more effective than lebron. lebron drove a couple times, got fouled and missed free throws. however once you saw wade come in the game the tempo switched and US made a run again. and i cant talk much about the game today against argentina because i missed this one but as i have recapped about that game once again it was wade. anyone that would not be biased and clearly wanted the better player in this tournament would easily choose wade plain and simple.

http://www.usabasketball.com/seniormen/2006/06_mwc_cumulative_stats.html

compare the stats between lebron and melo and tell me again lebron y??

while your at it at the top of the page tell me who the only two high scoreres in these games were besides senegal

I'm not a stat boy. I don't pull stats out of everywhere to try and prove my point. Watching the games and the impact of the players I vote Wade off. Why because he turned over the ball which led to many points for the opposition and he can't hit a jumpshot. I don't care that he averaged the most points on the team over the course of the tournament. Anyone of them could but when it came down to getting to that final game against probably the most decent team we faced what happened. Him and Bron dissappeared. I am not saying Bron is better than Wade but with Bron's cout vision and his ability to hit the occasional jumpshot I take him over Wade. Stats from the whole tournament mean nothing to me because they wasn't there in the game we needed them so you can take that argument somewhere else.

LO7cK35 wrote:

TXLAKERFAN wrote:

LO7cK35 wrote:

TXLAKERFAN wrote:

LO7cK35 wrote:

KB8@CL wrote:

Thrillseeker wrote:

Real Deal wrote:

LO7cK35 wrote:i watched it and even though he missed a couple dunks at the end, not to mention he got fouled on them, i still saw him doing a lot more then lebron.

Wade has been a turnover machine since putting on the USA jersey. LeBron is more valuable than Wade.

Lebron has more turnover than Wade, mr. Expert.:)

He also handles the ball 3 times as much as Wade. Wade has barely been the playmaker in this tournament.

Wade when driving to the hoop is a waiting TO to happen in this tounament and against these zone Ds.

you guys should be watching every game before you say anything about them. wade has easily been the better player in this tournament. and most of his turnovers come when usa is already up by 50 anyway and the U.S. is throwing alley oops to each other and more flashy passes. wade has not been the only one either. Lebron has almost been a non factor in this tournament and wade had been a difference maker throughout. Carmelo clearly outshined Lebron throughout the tourney. however wade and carmelo can play together and play together well.

if you have to choose between 2 players to go it would be between lebron and melo and no one after carmelos performance would keep lebron over wade on this team.

that poll is clearly irrelevant because its people choosing wade to go since he is less popular not because of his play

You are sounding like the most bias person in here. The majority of Wade's point have come in the open court. What happened when we didn't have many open court oppurtunites against a decent team. His production went down. Well guess what happens in the finals rounds in the Olympics. Anybody could have been plugged into Wade's spot to get to the Semi's but getting there is not enough we need to win. I choose James because he is more likely to hit the jumpshot and has a bit more versatility on the court. How can you say its between Melo and Bron when Melo has clearly been the best player on the team by far. That right there lets me know that your biasness for Wade is overshadowing your judgement. Maybe you should look at the poll results and think to yourself maybe just maybe I am the one being bias.

im the only one here not biased. if lebron was was playing alongside shaq that poll would be completely the other way. wade has surpassed lebron in just about every category. if you dont believe me take a look at the stats. he has been a difference maker on the floor. and of course melo has been the best player i said that b4 the only reason i said it would have to be between him and bron is because they play the same position. wade is a guard why would he have to compete with a spot against lebron? but if that was the case wade has less minutes, less turnovers, and has only missed a handful of shots more than lebron. the fg% are almost equal. and your gonna tell me that you would take bron over wade?! in the last game (greece) shane battier was more effective than lebron. lebron drove a couple times, got fouled and missed free throws. however once you saw wade come in the game the tempo switched and US made a run again. and i cant talk much about the game today against argentina because i missed this one but as i have recapped about that game once again it was wade. anyone that would not be biased and clearly wanted the better player in this tournament would easily choose wade plain and simple.

http://www.usabasketball.com/seniormen/2006/06_mwc_cumulative_stats.html

compare the stats between lebron and melo and tell me again lebron y??

while your at it at the top of the page tell me who the only two high scoreres in these games were besides senegal

I'm not a stat boy. I don't pull stats out of everywhere to try and prove my point. Watching the games and the impact of the players I vote Wade off. Why because he turned over the ball which led to many points for the opposition and he can't hit a jumpshot. I don't care that he averaged the most points on the team over the course of the tournament. Anyone of them could but when it came down to getting to that final game against probably the most decent team we faced what happened. Him and Bron dissappeared. I am not saying Bron is better than Wade but with Bron's cout vision and his ability to hit the occasional jumpshot I take him over Wade. Stats from the whole tournament mean nothing to me because they wasn't there in the game we needed them so you can take that argument somewhere else.

if your not a stats guy then i dont know what you are trying to get rid of wade for. wade had nothing but impact while he was on the floor. lebron seemed as just another body there. wade would come off the bench and change the tempo of every game. while lebron was on the floor it was the carmelo show. he was the only one on the offensive end really doing anything until wade would come in. yes lebron has good court vision but most of the tournament he has been rackin up the to's. and you said wade dissapered in that game??? you must be talkingabout another one because against greece as soon as he came in he brought the u.s lead down to 5 which was i believe 12. meanwhile lebron was busy doing nothing. so your argurment again that wade should go is why?? o thats right because he's on the heat. gotchu