Wade or LeBron one has to go off USA team

Who would you take off the team?

Wade
58
75%
Bron
19
24%
 
Total votes : 77

Postby LO7cK35 on Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:15 pm

TXLAKERFAN wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:
TXLAKERFAN wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:
TXLAKERFAN wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:
KB8@CL wrote:
Thrillseeker wrote:
Real Deal wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:i watched it and even though he missed a couple dunks at the end, not to mention he got fouled on them, i still saw him doing a lot more then lebron.

Wade has been a turnover machine since putting on the USA jersey. LeBron is more valuable than Wade.


Lebron has more turnover than Wade, mr. Expert.:)

He also handles the ball 3 times as much as Wade. Wade has barely been the playmaker in this tournament.

Wade when driving to the hoop is a waiting TO to happen in this tounament and against these zone Ds.


you guys should be watching every game before you say anything about them. wade has easily been the better player in this tournament. and most of his turnovers come when usa is already up by 50 anyway and the U.S. is throwing alley oops to each other and more flashy passes. wade has not been the only one either. Lebron has almost been a non factor in this tournament and wade had been a difference maker throughout. Carmelo clearly outshined Lebron throughout the tourney. however wade and carmelo can play together and play together well.

if you have to choose between 2 players to go it would be between lebron and melo and no one after carmelos performance would keep lebron over wade on this team.

that poll is clearly irrelevant because its people choosing wade to go since he is less popular not because of his play


You are sounding like the most bias person in here. The majority of Wade's point have come in the open court. What happened when we didn't have many open court oppurtunites against a decent team. His production went down. Well guess what happens in the finals rounds in the Olympics. Anybody could have been plugged into Wade's spot to get to the Semi's but getting there is not enough we need to win. I choose James because he is more likely to hit the jumpshot and has a bit more versatility on the court. How can you say its between Melo and Bron when Melo has clearly been the best player on the team by far. That right there lets me know that your biasness for Wade is overshadowing your judgement. Maybe you should look at the poll results and think to yourself maybe just maybe I am the one being bias.


im the only one here not biased. if lebron was was playing alongside shaq that poll would be completely the other way. wade has surpassed lebron in just about every category. if you dont believe me take a look at the stats. he has been a difference maker on the floor. and of course melo has been the best player i said that b4 the only reason i said it would have to be between him and bron is because they play the same position. wade is a guard why would he have to compete with a spot against lebron? but if that was the case wade has less minutes, less turnovers, and has only missed a handful of shots more than lebron. the fg% are almost equal. and your gonna tell me that you would take bron over wade?! in the last game (greece) shane battier was more effective than lebron. lebron drove a couple times, got fouled and missed free throws. however once you saw wade come in the game the tempo switched and US made a run again. and i cant talk much about the game today against argentina because i missed this one but as i have recapped about that game once again it was wade. anyone that would not be biased and clearly wanted the better player in this tournament would easily choose wade plain and simple.

http://www.usabasketball.com/seniormen/2006/06_mwc_cumulative_stats.html

compare the stats between lebron and melo and tell me again lebron y??

while your at it at the top of the page tell me who the only two high scoreres in these games were besides senegal



I'm not a stat boy. I don't pull stats out of everywhere to try and prove my point. Watching the games and the impact of the players I vote Wade off. Why because he turned over the ball which led to many points for the opposition and he can't hit a jumpshot. I don't care that he averaged the most points on the team over the course of the tournament. Anyone of them could but when it came down to getting to that final game against probably the most decent team we faced what happened. Him and Bron dissappeared. I am not saying Bron is better than Wade but with Bron's cout vision and his ability to hit the occasional jumpshot I take him over Wade. Stats from the whole tournament mean nothing to me because they wasn't there in the game we needed them so you can take that argument somewhere else.


if your not a stats guy then i dont know what you are trying to get rid of wade for. wade had nothing but impact while he was on the floor. lebron seemed as just another body there. wade would come off the bench and change the tempo of every game. while lebron was on the floor it was the carmelo show. he was the only one on the offensive end really doing anything until wade would come in. yes lebron has good court vision but most of the tournament he has been rackin up the to's. and you said wade dissapered in that game??? you must be talkingabout another one because against greece as soon as he came in he brought the u.s lead down to 5 which was i believe 12. meanwhile lebron was busy doing nothing. so your argurment again that wade should go is why?? o thats right because he's on the heat. gotchu




What does that have to do with anything being discussed here. Because this is a Laker board does that automatically mean we hate Wade. GTFOH Both are awesome NBA players and I respect both of there games but this is International play give me Redd or Allen and LO instead of these two. Neither Wade or Bron is really needed on this team. But if I had to pick one I would pick Bron because of his skill set as I have stated everytime I posted. Bron can do everything Wade can I can't say the same vice versa. Which is why I pick Bron. Is that clear enough for you.


that is where you are wrong my texas laker friend. either lebron or melo are not needed on this team. and no one would take off melo from this team. wade at the 1 or 2 with melo at the three has been working great this whole tournament. even though wade comes off the bench they have played together many times. however lebron at the 4 and carmelo at the 3 is not near as effective as wade and melo. sounds confusing but stay with me. bottom line is lebron and melo naturally play the same position. therefore 1 of them has to go. and it wont be melo.
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Postby TXLAKERFAN on Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:21 pm

LO7cK35 wrote:
TXLAKERFAN wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:
TXLAKERFAN wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:
TXLAKERFAN wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:
KB8@CL wrote:
Thrillseeker wrote:
Real Deal wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:i watched it and even though he missed a couple dunks at the end, not to mention he got fouled on them, i still saw him doing a lot more then lebron.

Wade has been a turnover machine since putting on the USA jersey. LeBron is more valuable than Wade.


Lebron has more turnover than Wade, mr. Expert.:)

He also handles the ball 3 times as much as Wade. Wade has barely been the playmaker in this tournament.

Wade when driving to the hoop is a waiting TO to happen in this tounament and against these zone Ds.


you guys should be watching every game before you say anything about them. wade has easily been the better player in this tournament. and most of his turnovers come when usa is already up by 50 anyway and the U.S. is throwing alley oops to each other and more flashy passes. wade has not been the only one either. Lebron has almost been a non factor in this tournament and wade had been a difference maker throughout. Carmelo clearly outshined Lebron throughout the tourney. however wade and carmelo can play together and play together well.

if you have to choose between 2 players to go it would be between lebron and melo and no one after carmelos performance would keep lebron over wade on this team.

that poll is clearly irrelevant because its people choosing wade to go since he is less popular not because of his play


You are sounding like the most bias person in here. The majority of Wade's point have come in the open court. What happened when we didn't have many open court oppurtunites against a decent team. His production went down. Well guess what happens in the finals rounds in the Olympics. Anybody could have been plugged into Wade's spot to get to the Semi's but getting there is not enough we need to win. I choose James because he is more likely to hit the jumpshot and has a bit more versatility on the court. How can you say its between Melo and Bron when Melo has clearly been the best player on the team by far. That right there lets me know that your biasness for Wade is overshadowing your judgement. Maybe you should look at the poll results and think to yourself maybe just maybe I am the one being bias.


im the only one here not biased. if lebron was was playing alongside shaq that poll would be completely the other way. wade has surpassed lebron in just about every category. if you dont believe me take a look at the stats. he has been a difference maker on the floor. and of course melo has been the best player i said that b4 the only reason i said it would have to be between him and bron is because they play the same position. wade is a guard why would he have to compete with a spot against lebron? but if that was the case wade has less minutes, less turnovers, and has only missed a handful of shots more than lebron. the fg% are almost equal. and your gonna tell me that you would take bron over wade?! in the last game (greece) shane battier was more effective than lebron. lebron drove a couple times, got fouled and missed free throws. however once you saw wade come in the game the tempo switched and US made a run again. and i cant talk much about the game today against argentina because i missed this one but as i have recapped about that game once again it was wade. anyone that would not be biased and clearly wanted the better player in this tournament would easily choose wade plain and simple.

http://www.usabasketball.com/seniormen/2006/06_mwc_cumulative_stats.html

compare the stats between lebron and melo and tell me again lebron y??

while your at it at the top of the page tell me who the only two high scoreres in these games were besides senegal



I'm not a stat boy. I don't pull stats out of everywhere to try and prove my point. Watching the games and the impact of the players I vote Wade off. Why because he turned over the ball which led to many points for the opposition and he can't hit a jumpshot. I don't care that he averaged the most points on the team over the course of the tournament. Anyone of them could but when it came down to getting to that final game against probably the most decent team we faced what happened. Him and Bron dissappeared. I am not saying Bron is better than Wade but with Bron's cout vision and his ability to hit the occasional jumpshot I take him over Wade. Stats from the whole tournament mean nothing to me because they wasn't there in the game we needed them so you can take that argument somewhere else.


if your not a stats guy then i dont know what you are trying to get rid of wade for. wade had nothing but impact while he was on the floor. lebron seemed as just another body there. wade would come off the bench and change the tempo of every game. while lebron was on the floor it was the carmelo show. he was the only one on the offensive end really doing anything until wade would come in. yes lebron has good court vision but most of the tournament he has been rackin up the to's. and you said wade dissapered in that game??? you must be talkingabout another one because against greece as soon as he came in he brought the u.s lead down to 5 which was i believe 12. meanwhile lebron was busy doing nothing. so your argurment again that wade should go is why?? o thats right because he's on the heat. gotchu




What does that have to do with anything being discussed here. Because this is a Laker board does that automatically mean we hate Wade. GTFOH Both are awesome NBA players and I respect both of there games but this is International play give me Redd or Allen and LO instead of these two. Neither Wade or Bron is really needed on this team. But if I had to pick one I would pick Bron because of his skill set as I have stated everytime I posted. Bron can do everything Wade can I can't say the same vice versa. Which is why I pick Bron. Is that clear enough for you.


that is where you are wrong my texas laker friend. either lebron or melo are not needed on this team. and no one would take off melo from this team. wade at the 1 or 2 with melo at the three has been working great this whole tournament. even though wade comes off the bench they have played together many times. however lebron at the 4 and carmelo at the 3 is not near as effective as wade and melo. sounds confusing but stay with me. bottom line is lebron and melo naturally play the same position. therefore 1 of them has to go. and it wont be melo.



No what you are ignoring is that Lebron can play(Internationally) positions 1-4 which is why he is more of an assest than Wade is. At the 1-2 position he can do everything Wade can if not better. You are in the minority and think that majority is solely voting because Wade plays for the Heat. Read the thread everyone that posted for the most part made case and point on why Wade needs to go.
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Postby LO7cK35 on Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:29 pm

TXLAKERFAN wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:
TXLAKERFAN wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:
TXLAKERFAN wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:
TXLAKERFAN wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:
KB8@CL wrote:
Thrillseeker wrote:
Real Deal wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:i watched it and even though he missed a couple dunks at the end, not to mention he got fouled on them, i still saw him doing a lot more then lebron.

Wade has been a turnover machine since putting on the USA jersey. LeBron is more valuable than Wade.


Lebron has more turnover than Wade, mr. Expert.:)

He also handles the ball 3 times as much as Wade. Wade has barely been the playmaker in this tournament.

Wade when driving to the hoop is a waiting TO to happen in this tounament and against these zone Ds.


you guys should be watching every game before you say anything about them. wade has easily been the better player in this tournament. and most of his turnovers come when usa is already up by 50 anyway and the U.S. is throwing alley oops to each other and more flashy passes. wade has not been the only one either. Lebron has almost been a non factor in this tournament and wade had been a difference maker throughout. Carmelo clearly outshined Lebron throughout the tourney. however wade and carmelo can play together and play together well.

if you have to choose between 2 players to go it would be between lebron and melo and no one after carmelos performance would keep lebron over wade on this team.

that poll is clearly irrelevant because its people choosing wade to go since he is less popular not because of his play


You are sounding like the most bias person in here. The majority of Wade's point have come in the open court. What happened when we didn't have many open court oppurtunites against a decent team. His production went down. Well guess what happens in the finals rounds in the Olympics. Anybody could have been plugged into Wade's spot to get to the Semi's but getting there is not enough we need to win. I choose James because he is more likely to hit the jumpshot and has a bit more versatility on the court. How can you say its between Melo and Bron when Melo has clearly been the best player on the team by far. That right there lets me know that your biasness for Wade is overshadowing your judgement. Maybe you should look at the poll results and think to yourself maybe just maybe I am the one being bias.


im the only one here not biased. if lebron was was playing alongside shaq that poll would be completely the other way. wade has surpassed lebron in just about every category. if you dont believe me take a look at the stats. he has been a difference maker on the floor. and of course melo has been the best player i said that b4 the only reason i said it would have to be between him and bron is because they play the same position. wade is a guard why would he have to compete with a spot against lebron? but if that was the case wade has less minutes, less turnovers, and has only missed a handful of shots more than lebron. the fg% are almost equal. and your gonna tell me that you would take bron over wade?! in the last game (greece) shane battier was more effective than lebron. lebron drove a couple times, got fouled and missed free throws. however once you saw wade come in the game the tempo switched and US made a run again. and i cant talk much about the game today against argentina because i missed this one but as i have recapped about that game once again it was wade. anyone that would not be biased and clearly wanted the better player in this tournament would easily choose wade plain and simple.

http://www.usabasketball.com/seniormen/2006/06_mwc_cumulative_stats.html

compare the stats between lebron and melo and tell me again lebron y??

while your at it at the top of the page tell me who the only two high scoreres in these games were besides senegal



I'm not a stat boy. I don't pull stats out of everywhere to try and prove my point. Watching the games and the impact of the players I vote Wade off. Why because he turned over the ball which led to many points for the opposition and he can't hit a jumpshot. I don't care that he averaged the most points on the team over the course of the tournament. Anyone of them could but when it came down to getting to that final game against probably the most decent team we faced what happened. Him and Bron dissappeared. I am not saying Bron is better than Wade but with Bron's cout vision and his ability to hit the occasional jumpshot I take him over Wade. Stats from the whole tournament mean nothing to me because they wasn't there in the game we needed them so you can take that argument somewhere else.


if your not a stats guy then i dont know what you are trying to get rid of wade for. wade had nothing but impact while he was on the floor. lebron seemed as just another body there. wade would come off the bench and change the tempo of every game. while lebron was on the floor it was the carmelo show. he was the only one on the offensive end really doing anything until wade would come in. yes lebron has good court vision but most of the tournament he has been rackin up the to's. and you said wade dissapered in that game??? you must be talkingabout another one because against greece as soon as he came in he brought the u.s lead down to 5 which was i believe 12. meanwhile lebron was busy doing nothing. so your argurment again that wade should go is why?? o thats right because he's on the heat. gotchu




What does that have to do with anything being discussed here. Because this is a Laker board does that automatically mean we hate Wade. GTFOH Both are awesome NBA players and I respect both of there games but this is International play give me Redd or Allen and LO instead of these two. Neither Wade or Bron is really needed on this team. But if I had to pick one I would pick Bron because of his skill set as I have stated everytime I posted. Bron can do everything Wade can I can't say the same vice versa. Which is why I pick Bron. Is that clear enough for you.


that is where you are wrong my texas laker friend. either lebron or melo are not needed on this team. and no one would take off melo from this team. wade at the 1 or 2 with melo at the three has been working great this whole tournament. even though wade comes off the bench they have played together many times. however lebron at the 4 and carmelo at the 3 is not near as effective as wade and melo. sounds confusing but stay with me. bottom line is lebron and melo naturally play the same position. therefore 1 of them has to go. and it wont be melo.



No what you are ignoring is that Lebron can play(Internationally) positions 1-4 which is why he is more of an assest than Wade is. At the 1-2 position he can do everything Wade can if not better. You are in the minority and think that majority is solely voting because Wade plays for the Heat. Read the thread everyone that posted for the most part made case and point on why Wade needs to go.


your right about lebron i know what he is capable of and if lebron had been playing better then melo or better than wade in these tournaments i would have said keep lebron. but he hasn't been a factor in these games such as wade and melo. they have been by far the 2 most dominant players on the team. and lebron, i love the guy but he hasn't played as well as them this tournament which is why he would have to go over wade. im not talking about what they can do or are capable of or who is better. im going off what has been shown thus far in the world championships and team usa and wade has been the better player and the bigger asset to the team
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Postby TXLAKERFAN on Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:36 pm

LO7cK35 wrote:
TXLAKERFAN wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:
TXLAKERFAN wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:
TXLAKERFAN wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:
TXLAKERFAN wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:
KB8@CL wrote:
Thrillseeker wrote:
Real Deal wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:i watched it and even though he missed a couple dunks at the end, not to mention he got fouled on them, i still saw him doing a lot more then lebron.

Wade has been a turnover machine since putting on the USA jersey. LeBron is more valuable than Wade.


Lebron has more turnover than Wade, mr. Expert.:)

He also handles the ball 3 times as much as Wade. Wade has barely been the playmaker in this tournament.

Wade when driving to the hoop is a waiting TO to happen in this tounament and against these zone Ds.


you guys should be watching every game before you say anything about them. wade has easily been the better player in this tournament. and most of his turnovers come when usa is already up by 50 anyway and the U.S. is throwing alley oops to each other and more flashy passes. wade has not been the only one either. Lebron has almost been a non factor in this tournament and wade had been a difference maker throughout. Carmelo clearly outshined Lebron throughout the tourney. however wade and carmelo can play together and play together well.

if you have to choose between 2 players to go it would be between lebron and melo and no one after carmelos performance would keep lebron over wade on this team.

that poll is clearly irrelevant because its people choosing wade to go since he is less popular not because of his play


You are sounding like the most bias person in here. The majority of Wade's point have come in the open court. What happened when we didn't have many open court oppurtunites against a decent team. His production went down. Well guess what happens in the finals rounds in the Olympics. Anybody could have been plugged into Wade's spot to get to the Semi's but getting there is not enough we need to win. I choose James because he is more likely to hit the jumpshot and has a bit more versatility on the court. How can you say its between Melo and Bron when Melo has clearly been the best player on the team by far. That right there lets me know that your biasness for Wade is overshadowing your judgement. Maybe you should look at the poll results and think to yourself maybe just maybe I am the one being bias.


im the only one here not biased. if lebron was was playing alongside shaq that poll would be completely the other way. wade has surpassed lebron in just about every category. if you dont believe me take a look at the stats. he has been a difference maker on the floor. and of course melo has been the best player i said that b4 the only reason i said it would have to be between him and bron is because they play the same position. wade is a guard why would he have to compete with a spot against lebron? but if that was the case wade has less minutes, less turnovers, and has only missed a handful of shots more than lebron. the fg% are almost equal. and your gonna tell me that you would take bron over wade?! in the last game (greece) shane battier was more effective than lebron. lebron drove a couple times, got fouled and missed free throws. however once you saw wade come in the game the tempo switched and US made a run again. and i cant talk much about the game today against argentina because i missed this one but as i have recapped about that game once again it was wade. anyone that would not be biased and clearly wanted the better player in this tournament would easily choose wade plain and simple.

http://www.usabasketball.com/seniormen/2006/06_mwc_cumulative_stats.html

compare the stats between lebron and melo and tell me again lebron y??

while your at it at the top of the page tell me who the only two high scoreres in these games were besides senegal



I'm not a stat boy. I don't pull stats out of everywhere to try and prove my point. Watching the games and the impact of the players I vote Wade off. Why because he turned over the ball which led to many points for the opposition and he can't hit a jumpshot. I don't care that he averaged the most points on the team over the course of the tournament. Anyone of them could but when it came down to getting to that final game against probably the most decent team we faced what happened. Him and Bron dissappeared. I am not saying Bron is better than Wade but with Bron's cout vision and his ability to hit the occasional jumpshot I take him over Wade. Stats from the whole tournament mean nothing to me because they wasn't there in the game we needed them so you can take that argument somewhere else.


if your not a stats guy then i dont know what you are trying to get rid of wade for. wade had nothing but impact while he was on the floor. lebron seemed as just another body there. wade would come off the bench and change the tempo of every game. while lebron was on the floor it was the carmelo show. he was the only one on the offensive end really doing anything until wade would come in. yes lebron has good court vision but most of the tournament he has been rackin up the to's. and you said wade dissapered in that game??? you must be talkingabout another one because against greece as soon as he came in he brought the u.s lead down to 5 which was i believe 12. meanwhile lebron was busy doing nothing. so your argurment again that wade should go is why?? o thats right because he's on the heat. gotchu




What does that have to do with anything being discussed here. Because this is a Laker board does that automatically mean we hate Wade. GTFOH Both are awesome NBA players and I respect both of there games but this is International play give me Redd or Allen and LO instead of these two. Neither Wade or Bron is really needed on this team. But if I had to pick one I would pick Bron because of his skill set as I have stated everytime I posted. Bron can do everything Wade can I can't say the same vice versa. Which is why I pick Bron. Is that clear enough for you.


that is where you are wrong my texas laker friend. either lebron or melo are not needed on this team. and no one would take off melo from this team. wade at the 1 or 2 with melo at the three has been working great this whole tournament. even though wade comes off the bench they have played together many times. however lebron at the 4 and carmelo at the 3 is not near as effective as wade and melo. sounds confusing but stay with me. bottom line is lebron and melo naturally play the same position. therefore 1 of them has to go. and it wont be melo.



No what you are ignoring is that Lebron can play(Internationally) positions 1-4 which is why he is more of an assest than Wade is. At the 1-2 position he can do everything Wade can if not better. You are in the minority and think that majority is solely voting because Wade plays for the Heat. Read the thread everyone that posted for the most part made case and point on why Wade needs to go.


your right about lebron i know what he is capable of and if lebron had been playing better then melo or better than wade in these tournaments i would have said keep lebron. but he hasn't been a factor in these games such as wade and melo. they have been by far the 2 most dominant players on the team. and lebron, i love the guy but he hasn't played as well as them this tournament which is why he would have to go over wade. im not talking about what they can do or are capable of or who is better. im going off what has been shown thus far in the world championships and team usa and wade has been the better player and the bigger asset to the team



Wade while he has scored points IMO has not been impressive at all. Yea the dunks and lay-ups are nice but when it comes down to running a set offense I am more comfortable with Lebron being there. What you are not realizing is this is not about what happened in the World Championships, thats done with I'm going forward. Bron can do with Wade did playing in Wade position probably better than Wade did, but we need room for a pure shooter. Bron can replace Wade but Wade cannot replace Bron so thats why I would show him the door and welcome Redd or Allen.
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Postby LO7cK35 on Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:53 pm

TXLAKERFAN wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:
TXLAKERFAN wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:
TXLAKERFAN wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:
TXLAKERFAN wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:
TXLAKERFAN wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:
KB8@CL wrote:
Thrillseeker wrote:
Real Deal wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:i watched it and even though he missed a couple dunks at the end, not to mention he got fouled on them, i still saw him doing a lot more then lebron.

Wade has been a turnover machine since putting on the USA jersey. LeBron is more valuable than Wade.


Lebron has more turnover than Wade, mr. Expert.:)

He also handles the ball 3 times as much as Wade. Wade has barely been the playmaker in this tournament.

Wade when driving to the hoop is a waiting TO to happen in this tounament and against these zone Ds.


you guys should be watching every game before you say anything about them. wade has easily been the better player in this tournament. and most of his turnovers come when usa is already up by 50 anyway and the U.S. is throwing alley oops to each other and more flashy passes. wade has not been the only one either. Lebron has almost been a non factor in this tournament and wade had been a difference maker throughout. Carmelo clearly outshined Lebron throughout the tourney. however wade and carmelo can play together and play together well.

if you have to choose between 2 players to go it would be between lebron and melo and no one after carmelos performance would keep lebron over wade on this team.

that poll is clearly irrelevant because its people choosing wade to go since he is less popular not because of his play


You are sounding like the most bias person in here. The majority of Wade's point have come in the open court. What happened when we didn't have many open court oppurtunites against a decent team. His production went down. Well guess what happens in the finals rounds in the Olympics. Anybody could have been plugged into Wade's spot to get to the Semi's but getting there is not enough we need to win. I choose James because he is more likely to hit the jumpshot and has a bit more versatility on the court. How can you say its between Melo and Bron when Melo has clearly been the best player on the team by far. That right there lets me know that your biasness for Wade is overshadowing your judgement. Maybe you should look at the poll results and think to yourself maybe just maybe I am the one being bias.


im the only one here not biased. if lebron was was playing alongside shaq that poll would be completely the other way. wade has surpassed lebron in just about every category. if you dont believe me take a look at the stats. he has been a difference maker on the floor. and of course melo has been the best player i said that b4 the only reason i said it would have to be between him and bron is because they play the same position. wade is a guard why would he have to compete with a spot against lebron? but if that was the case wade has less minutes, less turnovers, and has only missed a handful of shots more than lebron. the fg% are almost equal. and your gonna tell me that you would take bron over wade?! in the last game (greece) shane battier was more effective than lebron. lebron drove a couple times, got fouled and missed free throws. however once you saw wade come in the game the tempo switched and US made a run again. and i cant talk much about the game today against argentina because i missed this one but as i have recapped about that game once again it was wade. anyone that would not be biased and clearly wanted the better player in this tournament would easily choose wade plain and simple.

http://www.usabasketball.com/seniormen/2006/06_mwc_cumulative_stats.html

compare the stats between lebron and melo and tell me again lebron y??

while your at it at the top of the page tell me who the only two high scoreres in these games were besides senegal



I'm not a stat boy. I don't pull stats out of everywhere to try and prove my point. Watching the games and the impact of the players I vote Wade off. Why because he turned over the ball which led to many points for the opposition and he can't hit a jumpshot. I don't care that he averaged the most points on the team over the course of the tournament. Anyone of them could but when it came down to getting to that final game against probably the most decent team we faced what happened. Him and Bron dissappeared. I am not saying Bron is better than Wade but with Bron's cout vision and his ability to hit the occasional jumpshot I take him over Wade. Stats from the whole tournament mean nothing to me because they wasn't there in the game we needed them so you can take that argument somewhere else.


if your not a stats guy then i dont know what you are trying to get rid of wade for. wade had nothing but impact while he was on the floor. lebron seemed as just another body there. wade would come off the bench and change the tempo of every game. while lebron was on the floor it was the carmelo show. he was the only one on the offensive end really doing anything until wade would come in. yes lebron has good court vision but most of the tournament he has been rackin up the to's. and you said wade dissapered in that game??? you must be talkingabout another one because against greece as soon as he came in he brought the u.s lead down to 5 which was i believe 12. meanwhile lebron was busy doing nothing. so your argurment again that wade should go is why?? o thats right because he's on the heat. gotchu




What does that have to do with anything being discussed here. Because this is a Laker board does that automatically mean we hate Wade. GTFOH Both are awesome NBA players and I respect both of there games but this is International play give me Redd or Allen and LO instead of these two. Neither Wade or Bron is really needed on this team. But if I had to pick one I would pick Bron because of his skill set as I have stated everytime I posted. Bron can do everything Wade can I can't say the same vice versa. Which is why I pick Bron. Is that clear enough for you.


that is where you are wrong my texas laker friend. either lebron or melo are not needed on this team. and no one would take off melo from this team. wade at the 1 or 2 with melo at the three has been working great this whole tournament. even though wade comes off the bench they have played together many times. however lebron at the 4 and carmelo at the 3 is not near as effective as wade and melo. sounds confusing but stay with me. bottom line is lebron and melo naturally play the same position. therefore 1 of them has to go. and it wont be melo.



No what you are ignoring is that Lebron can play(Internationally) positions 1-4 which is why he is more of an assest than Wade is. At the 1-2 position he can do everything Wade can if not better. You are in the minority and think that majority is solely voting because Wade plays for the Heat. Read the thread everyone that posted for the most part made case and point on why Wade needs to go.


your right about lebron i know what he is capable of and if lebron had been playing better then melo or better than wade in these tournaments i would have said keep lebron. but he hasn't been a factor in these games such as wade and melo. they have been by far the 2 most dominant players on the team. and lebron, i love the guy but he hasn't played as well as them this tournament which is why he would have to go over wade. im not talking about what they can do or are capable of or who is better. im going off what has been shown thus far in the world championships and team usa and wade has been the better player and the bigger asset to the team



Wade while he has scored points IMO has not been impressive at all. Yea the dunks and lay-ups are nice but when it comes down to running a set offense I am more comfortable with Lebron being there. What you are not realizing is this is not about what happened in the World Championships, thats done with I'm going forward. Bron can do with Wade did playing in Wade position probably better than Wade did, but we need room for a pure shooter. Bron can replace Wade but Wade cannot replace Bron so thats why I would show him the door and welcome Redd or Allen.


what lebron has brought to the table is nothing that we couldve lived w/o. wades play we would not have gotten from lebron or anyone else. if so we would be getting it now. and why would we replace wade with lebron when wade has been playing better then bron. and the way wade has been playing he will not be getting replaced by no one. lebron did not outplay wade to even think about replacing him. also we do not need more pure shooters. our shots during the games was not what was hurting us it was our freethrows. carmelo, heinrich, johnson, jamison were making plenty of shots so we dont need more shooters. . the free throws is what hurt us throughout the tourney. you said your not basing your decision on the world championships but you should because thats exactly how it will be in the olympics. what they do in the nba and on their own teams doesnt matter right now. all that matters is what they do on this team and how they play together.
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Postby Real Deal on Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:58 pm

slimjim wrote:
Real Deal wrote:
slimjim wrote:^
i understand what you're saying

but why bother saying it?

you want him off and replaced with redd, you say all that he can't dunk/defend stuff like that

than you say "not seriously" speaking

that makes your whole post pointless.

slimjim wrote:every possesson on offence he had his hands out ready to receive the ball but no one passed to him

Talking about Kwame Brown. Every single possession, huh? It wasn't true, because I have the game. Pointless post?
slimjim wrote:not after sunday's performance... yuck!

Response to a question asking if Odom is an All-Star. One game ruined it for him? A game in December? Pointless post?
slimjim wrote:nah, the way i see it... dunking in europe is nothing

But...a dunk is a high-percentage shot, and it's two points, so technically, it's something. Pointless post?
slimjim wrote:also have you noticed that smush never passes to kwame? i've noticed it for like a month now....

Are you sure? I bet he has before. Pointless post?
slimjim wrote:there are many shooters who can't defend in the league like adam

Adam Morrison can defend, just not very well. Pointless post?

A few posts right there...I really don't need to go in and find more, I suppose.


you know for a mod you act great, thumbs up. :disagree:

tell other people not to bait or start trouble but here you are doing that.

You can dish it, but you can't taste it. Not my fault your feelings are hurt when someone does to you what you do to them...and oh, you bring in the Mod Card after this.

Let me ask you something...what guideline did I break, slimjim? Was I baiting against your favorite player or team? Did I personally attack you with a name? Did I bypass the word filter? Am I spamming?

I simply replied to you as you did to me, and I magnified it ten-fold. That's me...if someone wants to call me out for something, you better believe you're going to get that spotlight, just not the one you expect shining down on you.

Now...back to topic.
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Postby saint091 on Sat Sep 02, 2006 4:13 pm

LO7cK35 wrote:
TXLAKERFAN wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:
TXLAKERFAN wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:
TXLAKERFAN wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:
TXLAKERFAN wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:
TXLAKERFAN wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:
KB8@CL wrote:
Thrillseeker wrote:
Real Deal wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:i watched it and even though he missed a couple dunks at the end, not to mention he got fouled on them, i still saw him doing a lot more then lebron.

Wade has been a turnover machine since putting on the USA jersey. LeBron is more valuable than Wade.


Lebron has more turnover than Wade, mr. Expert.:)

He also handles the ball 3 times as much as Wade. Wade has barely been the playmaker in this tournament.

Wade when driving to the hoop is a waiting TO to happen in this tounament and against these zone Ds.


you guys should be watching every game before you say anything about them. wade has easily been the better player in this tournament. and most of his turnovers come when usa is already up by 50 anyway and the U.S. is throwing alley oops to each other and more flashy passes. wade has not been the only one either. Lebron has almost been a non factor in this tournament and wade had been a difference maker throughout. Carmelo clearly outshined Lebron throughout the tourney. however wade and carmelo can play together and play together well.

if you have to choose between 2 players to go it would be between lebron and melo and no one after carmelos performance would keep lebron over wade on this team.

that poll is clearly irrelevant because its people choosing wade to go since he is less popular not because of his play


You are sounding like the most bias person in here. The majority of Wade's point have come in the open court. What happened when we didn't have many open court oppurtunites against a decent team. His production went down. Well guess what happens in the finals rounds in the Olympics. Anybody could have been plugged into Wade's spot to get to the Semi's but getting there is not enough we need to win. I choose James because he is more likely to hit the jumpshot and has a bit more versatility on the court. How can you say its between Melo and Bron when Melo has clearly been the best player on the team by far. That right there lets me know that your biasness for Wade is overshadowing your judgement. Maybe you should look at the poll results and think to yourself maybe just maybe I am the one being bias.


im the only one here not biased. if lebron was was playing alongside shaq that poll would be completely the other way. wade has surpassed lebron in just about every category. if you dont believe me take a look at the stats. he has been a difference maker on the floor. and of course melo has been the best player i said that b4 the only reason i said it would have to be between him and bron is because they play the same position. wade is a guard why would he have to compete with a spot against lebron? but if that was the case wade has less minutes, less turnovers, and has only missed a handful of shots more than lebron. the fg% are almost equal. and your gonna tell me that you would take bron over wade?! in the last game (greece) shane battier was more effective than lebron. lebron drove a couple times, got fouled and missed free throws. however once you saw wade come in the game the tempo switched and US made a run again. and i cant talk much about the game today against argentina because i missed this one but as i have recapped about that game once again it was wade. anyone that would not be biased and clearly wanted the better player in this tournament would easily choose wade plain and simple.

http://www.usabasketball.com/seniormen/2006/06_mwc_cumulative_stats.html

compare the stats between lebron and melo and tell me again lebron y??

while your at it at the top of the page tell me who the only two high scoreres in these games were besides senegal



I'm not a stat boy. I don't pull stats out of everywhere to try and prove my point. Watching the games and the impact of the players I vote Wade off. Why because he turned over the ball which led to many points for the opposition and he can't hit a jumpshot. I don't care that he averaged the most points on the team over the course of the tournament. Anyone of them could but when it came down to getting to that final game against probably the most decent team we faced what happened. Him and Bron dissappeared. I am not saying Bron is better than Wade but with Bron's cout vision and his ability to hit the occasional jumpshot I take him over Wade. Stats from the whole tournament mean nothing to me because they wasn't there in the game we needed them so you can take that argument somewhere else.


if your not a stats guy then i dont know what you are trying to get rid of wade for. wade had nothing but impact while he was on the floor. lebron seemed as just another body there. wade would come off the bench and change the tempo of every game. while lebron was on the floor it was the carmelo show. he was the only one on the offensive end really doing anything until wade would come in. yes lebron has good court vision but most of the tournament he has been rackin up the to's. and you said wade dissapered in that game??? you must be talkingabout another one because against greece as soon as he came in he brought the u.s lead down to 5 which was i believe 12. meanwhile lebron was busy doing nothing. so your argurment again that wade should go is why?? o thats right because he's on the heat. gotchu




What does that have to do with anything being discussed here. Because this is a Laker board does that automatically mean we hate Wade. GTFOH Both are awesome NBA players and I respect both of there games but this is International play give me Redd or Allen and LO instead of these two. Neither Wade or Bron is really needed on this team. But if I had to pick one I would pick Bron because of his skill set as I have stated everytime I posted. Bron can do everything Wade can I can't say the same vice versa. Which is why I pick Bron. Is that clear enough for you.


that is where you are wrong my texas laker friend. either lebron or melo are not needed on this team. and no one would take off melo from this team. wade at the 1 or 2 with melo at the three has been working great this whole tournament. even though wade comes off the bench they have played together many times. however lebron at the 4 and carmelo at the 3 is not near as effective as wade and melo. sounds confusing but stay with me. bottom line is lebron and melo naturally play the same position. therefore 1 of them has to go. and it wont be melo.



No what you are ignoring is that Lebron can play(Internationally) positions 1-4 which is why he is more of an assest than Wade is. At the 1-2 position he can do everything Wade can if not better. You are in the minority and think that majority is solely voting because Wade plays for the Heat. Read the thread everyone that posted for the most part made case and point on why Wade needs to go.


your right about lebron i know what he is capable of and if lebron had been playing better then melo or better than wade in these tournaments i would have said keep lebron. but he hasn't been a factor in these games such as wade and melo. they have been by far the 2 most dominant players on the team. and lebron, i love the guy but he hasn't played as well as them this tournament which is why he would have to go over wade. im not talking about what they can do or are capable of or who is better. im going off what has been shown thus far in the world championships and team usa and wade has been the better player and the bigger asset to the team



Wade while he has scored points IMO has not been impressive at all. Yea the dunks and lay-ups are nice but when it comes down to running a set offense I am more comfortable with Lebron being there. What you are not realizing is this is not about what happened in the World Championships, thats done with I'm going forward. Bron can do with Wade did playing in Wade position probably better than Wade did, but we need room for a pure shooter. Bron can replace Wade but Wade cannot replace Bron so thats why I would show him the door and welcome Redd or Allen.


what lebron has brought to the table is nothing that we couldve lived w/o. wades play we would not have gotten from lebron or anyone else. if so we would be getting it now. and why would we replace wade with lebron when wade has been playing better then bron. and the way wade has been playing he will not be getting replaced by no one. lebron did not outplay wade to even think about replacing him. also we do not need more pure shooters. our shots during the games was not what was hurting us it was our freethrows. carmelo, heinrich, johnson, jamison were making plenty of shots so we dont need more shooters. . the free throws is what hurt us throughout the tourney. you said your not basing your decision on the world championships but you should because thats exactly how it will be in the olympics. what they do in the nba and on their own teams doesnt matter right now. all that matters is what they do on this team and how they play together.


^^^^^^^^Will this end?
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Postby LALShowtime on Sat Sep 02, 2006 5:12 pm

I mean I really feel bad for Wade and LeBron.

These 2 guys are fresh outta the play-offs playing for team USA which so many people neglected and it's not like international teams suck
A Team with T-Mac and Pierce finished 6th years back.
These guys have gone on before lost and still came back, commited for THREE years, while other stars were shunning the olympics. They win games radio complains how they didn't win big, they lose and everyone calls them out. People are saying Wade sucks and he's averaging 22 and repping USA something he clearly doesn't gotto do. People are saying "LeBronze" James and he's out there playing every year.

Fans here are [Swearing is not permitted at Clublakers. You must edit this post prior to submitting.] up, I got nothing but respect for these guys coming out and reppin for the country. They got mocked at for losing still came back and still gonna come next year. Kinda embarrising they do all this for their country only for people to pretty much crucify them.
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Wade or LeBron one has to go off USA team

Postby Lord Johnny on Sat Sep 02, 2006 5:20 pm

saint091 wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:
TXLAKERFAN wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:
TXLAKERFAN wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:
TXLAKERFAN wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:
TXLAKERFAN wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:
TXLAKERFAN wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:
KB8@CL wrote:
Thrillseeker wrote:
Real Deal wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:i watched it and even though he missed a couple dunks at the end, not to mention he got fouled on them, i still saw him doing a lot more then lebron.

Wade has been a turnover machine since putting on the USA jersey. LeBron is more valuable than Wade.


Lebron has more turnover than Wade, mr. Expert.:)

He also handles the ball 3 times as much as Wade. Wade has barely been the playmaker in this tournament.

Wade when driving to the hoop is a waiting TO to happen in this tounament and against these zone Ds.


you guys should be watching every game before you say anything about them. wade has easily been the better player in this tournament. and most of his turnovers come when usa is already up by 50 anyway and the U.S. is throwing alley oops to each other and more flashy passes. wade has not been the only one either. Lebron has almost been a non factor in this tournament and wade had been a difference maker throughout. Carmelo clearly outshined Lebron throughout the tourney. however wade and carmelo can play together and play together well.

if you have to choose between 2 players to go it would be between lebron and melo and no one after carmelos performance would keep lebron over wade on this team.

that poll is clearly irrelevant because its people choosing wade to go since he is less popular not because of his play


You are sounding like the most bias person in here. The majority of Wade's point have come in the open court. What happened when we didn't have many open court oppurtunites against a decent team. His production went down. Well guess what happens in the finals rounds in the Olympics. Anybody could have been plugged into Wade's spot to get to the Semi's but getting there is not enough we need to win. I choose James because he is more likely to hit the jumpshot and has a bit more versatility on the court. How can you say its between Melo and Bron when Melo has clearly been the best player on the team by far. That right there lets me know that your biasness for Wade is overshadowing your judgement. Maybe you should look at the poll results and think to yourself maybe just maybe I am the one being bias.


im the only one here not biased. if lebron was was playing alongside shaq that poll would be completely the other way. wade has surpassed lebron in just about every category. if you dont believe me take a look at the stats. he has been a difference maker on the floor. and of course melo has been the best player i said that b4 the only reason i said it would have to be between him and bron is because they play the same position. wade is a guard why would he have to compete with a spot against lebron? but if that was the case wade has less minutes, less turnovers, and has only missed a handful of shots more than lebron. the fg% are almost equal. and your gonna tell me that you would take bron over wade?! in the last game (greece) shane battier was more effective than lebron. lebron drove a couple times, got fouled and missed free throws. however once you saw wade come in the game the tempo switched and US made a run again. and i cant talk much about the game today against argentina because i missed this one but as i have recapped about that game once again it was wade. anyone that would not be biased and clearly wanted the better player in this tournament would easily choose wade plain and simple.

http://www.usabasketball.com/seniormen/2006/06_mwc_cumulative_stats.html

compare the stats between lebron and melo and tell me again lebron y??

while your at it at the top of the page tell me who the only two high scoreres in these games were besides senegal



I'm not a stat boy. I don't pull stats out of everywhere to try and prove my point. Watching the games and the impact of the players I vote Wade off. Why because he turned over the ball which led to many points for the opposition and he can't hit a jumpshot. I don't care that he averaged the most points on the team over the course of the tournament. Anyone of them could but when it came down to getting to that final game against probably the most decent team we faced what happened. Him and Bron dissappeared. I am not saying Bron is better than Wade but with Bron's cout vision and his ability to hit the occasional jumpshot I take him over Wade. Stats from the whole tournament mean nothing to me because they wasn't there in the game we needed them so you can take that argument somewhere else.


if your not a stats guy then i dont know what you are trying to get rid of wade for. wade had nothing but impact while he was on the floor. lebron seemed as just another body there. wade would come off the bench and change the tempo of every game. while lebron was on the floor it was the carmelo show. he was the only one on the offensive end really doing anything until wade would come in. yes lebron has good court vision but most of the tournament he has been rackin up the to's. and you said wade dissapered in that game??? you must be talkingabout another one because against greece as soon as he came in he brought the u.s lead down to 5 which was i believe 12. meanwhile lebron was busy doing nothing. so your argurment again that wade should go is why?? o thats right because he's on the heat. gotchu




What does that have to do with anything being discussed here. Because this is a Laker board does that automatically mean we hate Wade. GTFOH Both are awesome NBA players and I respect both of there games but this is International play give me Redd or Allen and LO instead of these two. Neither Wade or Bron is really needed on this team. But if I had to pick one I would pick Bron because of his skill set as I have stated everytime I posted. Bron can do everything Wade can I can't say the same vice versa. Which is why I pick Bron. Is that clear enough for you.


that is where you are wrong my texas laker friend. either lebron or melo are not needed on this team. and no one would take off melo from this team. wade at the 1 or 2 with melo at the three has been working great this whole tournament. even though wade comes off the bench they have played together many times. however lebron at the 4 and carmelo at the 3 is not near as effective as wade and melo. sounds confusing but stay with me. bottom line is lebron and melo naturally play the same position. therefore 1 of them has to go. and it wont be melo.



No what you are ignoring is that Lebron can play(Internationally) positions 1-4 which is why he is more of an assest than Wade is. At the 1-2 position he can do everything Wade can if not better. You are in the minority and think that majority is solely voting because Wade plays for the Heat. Read the thread everyone that posted for the most part made case and point on why Wade needs to go.


your right about lebron i know what he is capable of and if lebron had been playing better then melo or better than wade in these tournaments i would have said keep lebron. but he hasn't been a factor in these games such as wade and melo. they have been by far the 2 most dominant players on the team. and lebron, i love the guy but he hasn't played as well as them this tournament which is why he would have to go over wade. im not talking about what they can do or are capable of or who is better. im going off what has been shown thus far in the world championships and team usa and wade has been the better player and the bigger asset to the team



Wade while he has scored points IMO has not been impressive at all. Yea the dunks and lay-ups are nice but when it comes down to running a set offense I am more comfortable with Lebron being there. What you are not realizing is this is not about what happened in the World Championships, thats done with I'm going forward. Bron can do with Wade did playing in Wade position probably better than Wade did, but we need room for a pure shooter. Bron can replace Wade but Wade cannot replace Bron so thats why I would show him the door and welcome Redd or Allen.


what lebron has brought to the table is nothing that we couldve lived w/o. wades play we would not have gotten from lebron or anyone else. if so we would be getting it now. and why would we replace wade with lebron when wade has been playing better then bron. and the way wade has been playing he will not be getting replaced by no one. lebron did not outplay wade to even think about replacing him. also we do not need more pure shooters. our shots during the games was not what was hurting us it was our freethrows. carmelo, heinrich, johnson, jamison were making plenty of shots so we dont need more shooters. . the free throws is what hurt us throughout the tourney. you said your not basing your decision on the world championships but you should because thats exactly how it will be in the olympics. what they do in the nba and on their own teams doesnt matter right now. all that matters is what they do on this team and how they play together.


^^^^^^^^Will this end?


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Postby LaLaKeRz4LiFe on Sat Sep 02, 2006 5:21 pm

LALShowtime wrote:I mean I really feel bad for Wade and LeBron.

These 2 guys are fresh outta the play-offs playing for team USA which so many people neglected and it's not like international teams suck
A Team with T-Mac and Pierce finished 6th years back.
These guys have gone on before lost and still came back, commited for THREE years, while other stars were shunning the olympics. They win games radio complains how they didn't win big, they lose and everyone calls them out. People are saying Wade sucks and he's averaging 22 and repping USA something he clearly doesn't gotto do. People are saying "LeBronze" James and he's out there playing every year.

Fans here are [Swearing is not permitted at Clublakers. You must edit this post prior to submitting.] up, I got nothing but respect for these guys coming out and reppin for the country. They got mocked at for losing still came back and still gonna come next year. Kinda embarrising they do all this for their country only for people to pretty much crucify them.
:jam2: Yeah, its never a gurantee that the USA team will win the gold.
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Postby LO7cK35 on Sat Sep 02, 2006 5:27 pm

saint091 wrote:^^^^^^^^Will this end?

lmao i was thinking the same, but its a long rainy day in new york and im bored out my mind. so i decided to at least accomplish something and get my points in and the last word. lol
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Postby slimjim on Sat Sep 02, 2006 5:57 pm

Real Deal wrote:You can dish it, but you can't taste it. Not my fault your feelings are hurt when someone does to you what you do to them...and oh, you bring in the Mod Card after this.

Let me ask you something...what guideline did I break, slimjim? Was I baiting against your favorite player or team? Did I personally attack you with a name? Did I bypass the word filter? Am I spamming?

I simply replied to you as you did to me, and I magnified it ten-fold. That's me...if someone wants to call me out for something, you better believe you're going to get that spotlight, just not the one you expect shining down on you.

Now...back to topic.


ya what i did was extactly the same thing. :disagree:

i didn't look to embarass you when i responded... not because you're an admin but because you're a member of CL...

you spent at least 1/2 an hour looking through my post for stuff that was smiliar to your post just to intentionally embarass me.

come on if you look hard enough obviously you're going to find a few pointless type of comments like smush can't this, LO can't that.

i bet i could a find post were in 2005 members on CL say kwame is very good... than dig up another post in 2006 were that same member says he suxx.. but why would i do that? i don't want to embarras them... i've been on cl for a year and a bit now, obviously some of my comments are gonna contradict other comments i made a year ago...

you've never shown respect towards me...
you've always been out to get me...

and you're probably just gonna respond with a laugh and say it didin't take 1/2 an hour.
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Postby saint091 on Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:00 pm

Lebron > Wade, not by much though.

These kids are both tentative in their own ways and lack some defense. Lebron better playmaker, and can hit the pull-up jumpshot more often then Wade can. If Wade had a more consistent jumpshot, I may have reconsidered and put more thought to it.
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Postby Real Deal on Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:11 pm

slimjim wrote:
Real Deal wrote:You can dish it, but you can't taste it. Not my fault your feelings are hurt when someone does to you what you do to them...and oh, you bring in the Mod Card after this.

Let me ask you something...what guideline did I break, slimjim? Was I baiting against your favorite player or team? Did I personally attack you with a name? Did I bypass the word filter? Am I spamming?

I simply replied to you as you did to me, and I magnified it ten-fold. That's me...if someone wants to call me out for something, you better believe you're going to get that spotlight, just not the one you expect shining down on you.

Now...back to topic.


ya what i did was extactly the same thing. :disagree:

i didn't look to embarass you when i responded... not because you're an admin but because you're a member of CL...

you spent at least 1/2 an hour looking through my post for stuff that was smiliar to your post just to intentionally embarass me.

come on if you look hard enough obviously you're going to find a few pointless type of comments like smush can't this, LO can't that.

i bet i could a find post were in 2005 members on CL say kwame is very good... than dig up another post in 2006 were that same member says he suxx.. but why would i do that? i don't want to embarras them... i've been on cl for a year and a bit now, obviously some of my comments are gonna contradict other comments i made a year ago...

you've never shown respect towards me...
you've always been out to get me...

and you're probably just gonna respond with a laugh and say it didin't take 1/2 an hour.

First warning. I told you once, and I'm not telling you again after this...back to topic, now.
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Postby slimjim on Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:22 pm

or what you're going to ban me for going "off topic'? when all i did was respond to your comment.
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Postby Real Deal on Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:26 pm

slimjim wrote:or what you're going to ban me for going "off topic'? when all i did was respond to your comment.

Straight to final warning. Thread closed for everyone if you do it again.
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Postby LO7cK35 on Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:56 pm

Real Deal wrote:
slimjim wrote:or what you're going to ban me for going "off topic'? when all i did was respond to your comment.

Straight to final warning. Thread closed for everyone if you do it again.


don't do that me and TX got a whole another 10 pages b4 we done. :man10:
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Postby dj vitus on Sun Sep 03, 2006 1:29 am

Wade, LBJ, and Carmelo are stuck like glue. You can't remove any of the three cuz it would look unfair in the media. People would start to question and cry favoritisms and what not. You just can't separate them. If one goes, all three of them have to go. Replace them with Kobe, Shaq, and Duncan. Now that's more like it.
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Postby TXLAKERFAN on Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:13 am

LO7cK35 wrote:what lebron has brought to the table is nothing that we couldve lived w/o. wades play we would not have gotten from lebron or anyone else. if so we would be getting it now. and why would we replace wade with lebron when wade has been playing better then bron. and the way wade has been playing he will not be getting replaced by no one. lebron did not outplay wade to even think about replacing him. also we do not need more pure shooters. our shots during the games was not what was hurting us it was our freethrows. carmelo, heinrich, johnson, jamison were making plenty of shots so we dont need more shooters. . the free throws is what hurt us throughout the tourney. you said your not basing your decision on the world championships but you should because thats exactly how it will be in the olympics. what they do in the nba and on their own teams doesnt matter right now. all that matters is what they do on this team and how they play together.

Bron And Wade were not playing the same position. Wade was plaing the wing and Bron was playing 3/4. Put Bron at wing and we would have got the same numbers that Wade were able to put up and then some. You are speaking in terms as if Bron came in and played wing in place of Wade and did nothing. They were not playing the same position, it makes a difference.
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Postby Real Deal on Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:50 am

Hey TX, just thought I'd break apart the multiple quote embedding. Sometimes, browsers will crash if it's done too many times.
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Postby LO7cK35 on Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:56 pm

TXLAKERFAN wrote:
LO7cK35 wrote:what lebron has brought to the table is nothing that we couldve lived w/o. wades play we would not have gotten from lebron or anyone else. if so we would be getting it now. and why would we replace wade with lebron when wade has been playing better then bron. and the way wade has been playing he will not be getting replaced by no one. lebron did not outplay wade to even think about replacing him. also we do not need more pure shooters. our shots during the games was not what was hurting us it was our freethrows. carmelo, heinrich, johnson, jamison were making plenty of shots so we dont need more shooters. . the free throws is what hurt us throughout the tourney. you said your not basing your decision on the world championships but you should because thats exactly how it will be in the olympics. what they do in the nba and on their own teams doesnt matter right now. all that matters is what they do on this team and how they play together.

Bron And Wade were not playing the same position. Wade was plaing the wing and Bron was playing 3/4. Put Bron at wing and we would have got the same numbers that Wade were able to put up and then some. You are speaking in terms as if Bron came in and played wing in place of Wade and did nothing. They were not playing the same position, it makes a difference.


but lebron will not get wade's position. maybe he would if wade had been struggling throughout the world championships but he wasn't and the way carmelo was playing he will not get the starting 3 either. and to start at the 2 they need some pure shooters such as joe johnson or heinrich, which is why wade was coming off the bench. and it worked to near perfection. so lebron the most he will get is the starting 4 or backing up melo. and honestly whne the olympics comes around i would much rather have odom start the 4 then lebron.
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Postby TXLAKERFAN on Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:32 pm

If Wade is removed Bron can play his position coming off the bench just as Wade did and be just as productive and and more assist and rebounds
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Postby Azndude2190 on Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:01 pm

Think about it.

Wade removed.

Okay so he's defintly not better than Kobe.But he's still Wade.The same Wade that won a ring and a finals MVP.No way he's cut from the team...unless i'm missing a point somewhere.
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