Andrew Bynum > Tim Duncan

Steve wrote:OK, but when Kobe was 6 years into his career it wasn't even in a discussion, there was a ton of potential that we saw, but we weren't saying Kobe > MJ yet either. Now since Kobe has accomplished so much it's a real discussion. The fact Duncan never had 30 rebounds in a game means literally nothing to me. Duncan is Duncan man...Drew has 1 all star start in his ENTIRE career, before we start saying Drew is better why don't we give it another 5 years. Just be realistic I don't care what single game accolades Drew has he's not even close to a prime Duncan not yet, now now...hopefully when it's all said and done he'll 5 titles and be leaps and bounds past him but for now on April 29th 2012 he's simply not there yet....sorry man

JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:i think doberman enjoys having fans of other teams quote his posts and make a mockery of him on their forums

LAL4EVA wrote:OP, have you seen TD in his prime? if yes, tell me how he wasn't dominant? Did you forget the defense he played on a consistant basis? The shots he changed? He might not be as athletic, but that doesn't mean that he's not dominant. What about all the times when the spurs needed a bucket and he consistantly got it for them. All the way to 4 rings!!!!! to be dominant, you have to be consistant...or else it was a fluke in the first place

Lakerjones wrote:

tttppp wrote:

Lakerjones wrote:
Most of his career (if not all of it) Duncan has been a PF. I'm not giving out medals to anyone. Duncan has had a stellar career. He's top 10-15 all time without any question whatsoever. I'm not even a fan of the guy but the comparison or the statement that Bynum is better after one single healthy season as a starter is ludicrous.

I don't know what your definition of dominant is and I don't really care about it. The guy has 4 championships and there was plenty of competition in the league including the Lakers with Shaq. He has 4 rings as the best player on his team. Bynum is a terrific young talent who is earning his stripes and might someday be as good as Tim Duncan. He ain't there yet. Better than Duncan after 7 years already in the league? He's going to have to keep on working pretty hard if he's going to come close to matching Timmy D.'s resume.

I never said Bynum has had a better career. I all I said was that if he stayed healthy and got more consistent, he'd be better than Duncan.

Just because Duncan was only the second biggest player on his team some years, does not make him a pf. In those years, the Spurs played with 2 centers. Just like the Lakers do now. Gasol is basically an undersized center like Duncan.

^^ What are we even talking about here? Last I checked under Tim Duncan's player stats he was, is and continues to be listed as a PF. So is Gasol. I don't care what your opinion about his position is. The fact remains that he's a PF.

Can Bynum be a better center than Duncan? Sure. Duncan's not a center. Can Duncan be a better PF than Bynum? You betcha. Not hard to imagine it really.

This is getting tedious. As mentioned, last I checked Duncan is an all time great. Bynum's got a long freaking way to go to catch up to him. By this time in their respective careers Duncan had averaged over 20 points a game and double digit rebounds - actually he had those stats every single year. In fact, Duncan still has career averages of 20 and 11 - that's over the course of 14 years. Bynum has never averaged 20 points a game and he's only hit double digits in rebounding twice in 7 years. He has a LOT of catching up to do.

So what are you saying, he's better this year? Sure. He's a better center than Duncan is a PF this year. Will he ever be considered a better center than Duncan is considered as a PF in terms of career? Not likely. Duncan and Malone are certainly the top two at their position. Bynum will not be top two center. Not happening.

Weezy wrote:

lakers_09tv wrote:

LAL4EVA wrote:OP, have you seen TD in his prime? if yes, tell me how he wasn't dominant? Did you forget the defense he played on a consistant basis? The shots he changed? He might not be as athletic, but that doesn't mean that he's not dominant. What about all the times when the spurs needed a bucket and he consistantly got it for them. All the way to 4 rings!!!!! to be dominant, you have to be consistant...or else it was a fluke in the first place

Duncan is one of the 3 best players I've seen in the last 10 years. This is like comparing Westbrook to Kobe.

Didn't you do just that not too long ago though? Maybe around the time when you said Kobe wasn't even a top 20 player anymore? I guess we all make mistakes.

I'm talking about prime Kobe. I wouldn't dare compare Westbrook to Kobe in his prime.

Doberman wrote:First 40 point game:

Bynum - 21 years, 86 days
Duncan - 23 years, 228 days

First 20 rebound game:

Bynum - 23 years, 160 days
Duncan - 21 years, 191 days

First Playoff Triple Double:

Bynum - 24 years, 183 days
Duncan - 25 years, 360 days

Doberman wrote:Duncan has never had a 30 rebound game
Duncan has never had a 10 block game

phoenixrisingla wrote:This is silly. I thought we considered ourselves less "overreactive" and "homerish" than other teams fans.

Just because someone you like has a great season doesnt mean you have to try to say they're better than a legend.

And to the guy that said the Spurs only win Championships when the rest the league sucks... that just sounds like pure hate man.

We're better than that... right?

JGC wrote:

phoenixrisingla wrote:This is silly. I thought we considered ourselves less "overreactive" and "homerish" than other teams fans.

Just because someone you like has a great season doesnt mean you have to try to say they're better than a legend.

And to the guy that said the Spurs only win Championships when the rest the league sucks... that just sounds like pure hate man.

We're better than that... right?

Dude, Laker fans are the WORST when it comes to being "overreactive" and "homerish". Most of them only watch Laker games for the worst part, and don't even wear the playoff t-shirts handed to them at the games.

Seeing all those OKC fans rockin those blue shirts was pretty amazing.