D12 Discussion: Dwightmare over! (1139)

Re: D12 Thread: Brushin' his shoulders off (Won't need surgery)

Postby Rooscooter on Fri May 17, 2013 6:10 am

^^ if you get downtown go to the "west end" area and eat at a place called the Hoffbrau. Get the fresh chips and Sal's Ribeye. Best Steaks in Dallas.
"If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." Winston Churchill

“The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present - and is gravely to be regarded." Dwight Eisenhower

"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it" Thomas Sowell
User avatar
Rooscooter

 
Posts: 23048
Joined: Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:25 pm
Location: Chandler AZ and Andalué

Re: D12 Thread: Brushin' his shoulders off (Won't need surgery)

Postby abeer3 on Fri May 17, 2013 6:20 am

I do believe that LA and NY lead the way but Chi/Houston/Miami have been interchangeable in the recent 20 years in 3rd place as far as total merchandise revenues are concerned.


my point was: third is a distant third. and I think the Chinese market isn't as enamored with yao out of the picture. lin's not really one of theirs like yao was; plus, he's not very good.

I lived in dallas for 15 years. good town, overall. but a fickle sports town, especially for the mavs. it's football first, and then if baseball/basketball are winning, they're cool. if not, they don't exist. this is one reason why Cuban made a tactical error in tearing down their team (in retrospect). they should have kept spending and stayed relevant in that market.

btw, Houston's a crappy sports city that is also much more concerned with football. if you have league pass, check out the stands in Houston home games. it's like Atlanta.
abeer3

 
Posts: 10407
Joined: Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:15 pm

Re: D12 Thread: Brushin' his shoulders off (Won't need surgery)

Postby The Rock on Fri May 17, 2013 9:01 pm

Rooscooter wrote:^^ if you get downtown go to the "west end" area and eat at a place called the Hoffbrau. Get the fresh chips and Sal's Ribeye. Best Steaks in Dallas.


I'll mark it down for next time im comin out here in July.

Came here for a conference leaving tomorrow night. Im in the outskirts near Oak Cliff area, geeze it turns into a ghost town at night Lol it was quite lively during the day
Image

Props to sidthekid871
User avatar
The Rock
CL Twitter Team
 
Posts: 19992
Joined: Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:10 pm
Location: Smackdown Hotel

Re: D12 Thread: Brushin' his shoulders off (Won't need surgery)

Postby Tobias Funke on Fri May 17, 2013 10:52 pm

^ Gotta go to Uptown if you're looking for nightlife. Im not from Dallas but I know Oak Cliff isn't exactly Beverly Hills to say the least.
"Come hell or high water we're gonna be there again. Its just something about the Lakers organization. Mitch is really, really good at it, he's really really good man...."

- 24
User avatar
Tobias Funke

 
Posts: 5696
Joined: Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:13 am

Re: D12 Thread: Brushin' his shoulders off (Won't need surgery)

Postby The Rock on Sat May 18, 2013 4:58 am

^ haha yup its not as fancy as downtown Dallas. But I came here for a purpose got it done, I like Dallas so far...but yea its not LA haha
Image

Props to sidthekid871
User avatar
The Rock
CL Twitter Team
 
Posts: 19992
Joined: Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:10 pm
Location: Smackdown Hotel

Re: D12 Thread: Brushin' his shoulders off (Won't need surgery)

Postby Doc Brown on Sat May 18, 2013 2:24 pm

According to our good friend Mr. Pincus....

Eric Pincus ‏@EricPincus 14m
Updated the @HOOPSWORLD Houston Rockets Team Salary http://www.hoopsworld.com/houston-rockets-team-salary/ … Rockets looking at about $17.7 mil in cap (roughly)
Expand Reply Retweet Favorite More


Eric Pincus ‏@EricPincus 13m
With Rockets - have to anticipate they keep Parsons, Smith and Beverley because all three are bargains - so $17.7 mil with those 3 too
Expand Reply Retweet Favorite More
Rule of Thumb at ClubLakers - Never encourage people to check your post history.
User avatar
Doc Brown

 
Posts: 19457
Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:11 am
Location: Ohio

Re: D12 Thread: Brushin' his shoulders off (Won't need surgery)

Postby Doc Brown on Sun May 19, 2013 4:27 pm

With the Lakers hoping for a swift decision from Dwight Howard on his free agency this summer, the All-Star center has given no indication he will rush the process and has privately indicated that he plans to give strong consideration to multiple teams, league sources told CBSSports.com. Though Howard is adamant that his free agency not be marred by the circus-like environment that surrounded his departure from Orlando last summer, word already has spread to multiple levels of his support staff that Howard re-signing with the Lakers is far from a done deal.

With six weeks to go before Howard becomes an unrestricted free agent, the team that is said to intrigue him the most is the Houston Rockets, according to multiple people briefed on internal conversations surrounding Howard's free-agent decision. The Rockets have a young star, James Harden, who has proved himself worthy of playing the leading role for the franchise; a budding 3-point shooting threat in Chandler Parsons; a defensive-minded coach in Kevin McHale; and Omer Asik, the kind of 7-footer Howard is believed to want next to him in the frontcourt.

The Mavericks represent another franchise that intrigues Howard, and Dallas is a minor transaction or two away from having enough room to sign Howard outright as an unrestricted free agent. Howard plans to explore all such options, and a person briefed on his plans told CBSSports.com that there are "several" teams the free-agent center is "going to take a hard look at."

Though league sources acknowledge that it would be difficult for Howard to leave LA and its off-court branding opportunities, Howard would find himself in somewhat of a dead-end in terms of the talent surrounding him with the Lakers going forward. If the Lakers re-signed Howard, even the bold move of amnestying Pau Gasol and his $19.3 million contract would leave them too far over the luxury-tax line to have access to anything beyond the taxpayer mid-level exception and minimum contracts to improve the roster. Teams that are $4 million or more above the tax line cannot use the full mid-level or bi-annual exceptions to sign free agents. Also, Kobe Bryant, 35, is coming off surgery to repair a torn Achilles' tendon. CBSSports.com

Read more at http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#AyTwLlighavEtKmy.99
Rule of Thumb at ClubLakers - Never encourage people to check your post history.
User avatar
Doc Brown

 
Posts: 19457
Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:11 am
Location: Ohio

Re: D12 Thread: Brushin' his shoulders off (Won't need surgery)

Postby Doc Brown on Sun May 19, 2013 4:54 pm

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 1m
As I wrote last week, Dwight Howard's interest in the Houston Rockets is real. He'll definitely consider them and speak with James Harden.
Expand
Rule of Thumb at ClubLakers - Never encourage people to check your post history.
User avatar
Doc Brown

 
Posts: 19457
Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:11 am
Location: Ohio

Re: D12 Thread: Brushin' his shoulders off (Won't need surgery)

Postby Helljumper on Sun May 19, 2013 4:55 pm

Doc Brown wrote:
If the Lakers re-signed Howard, even the bold move of amnestying Pau Gasol and his $19.3 million contract would leave them too far over the luxury-tax line to have access to anything beyond the taxpayer mid-level exception and minimum contracts to improve the roster. Teams that are $4 million or more above the tax line cannot use the full mid-level or bi-annual exceptions to sign free agents. Also, Kobe Bryant, 35, is coming off surgery to repair a torn Achilles' tendon. CBSSports.com

Read more at http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#AyTwLlighavEtKmy.99


Damn, so even if we amnesty Pau, we can't improve our team via free agency?! Too bad there isn't anything else we could do with Pau's expiring contract to improve the team and convince Dwight to come back...
Image
User avatar
Helljumper

 
Posts: 14882
Joined: Fri May 14, 2004 4:40 pm
Location: Riverside, CA

Re: D12 Thread: Brushin' his shoulders off (Won't need surgery)

Postby revgen on Sun May 19, 2013 5:01 pm

Doc Brown wrote:
Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 1m
As I wrote last week, Dwight Howard's interest in the Houston Rockets is real. He'll definitely consider them and speak with James Harden.
Expand


Any team that can offer max money, or near max money will be considered by Dwight. It's what you do as a FA. Listen and consider all offers.
"Every time he’s hurt, he always plays, he always comes through."

- Metta World Peace on teammate Kobe Bryant
revgen
HDTV/Multimedia Guru
 
Posts: 21735
Joined: Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:53 pm
Location: Southern California

Re: D12 Thread: Brushin' his shoulders off (Won't need surgery)

Postby abeer3 on Sun May 19, 2013 5:47 pm

wow, that story was a big bag of nothing. to risk getting on my soapbox again, i'm annoyed at the media's short-sightedness in terms of the lakers' ability to improve. it's one year, people. and even then, they can theoretically improve via trade.

howard needs to think about that "inflexibility" and whether he wouldn't be facing the exact same conditions anywhere he signed. this is what happens when you make over 1/3 of your team's salary cap.
abeer3

 
Posts: 10407
Joined: Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:15 pm

Re: D12 Thread: Brushin' his shoulders off (Won't need surgery)

Postby revgen on Sun May 19, 2013 5:59 pm

Helljumper wrote:
Doc Brown wrote:
If the Lakers re-signed Howard, even the bold move of amnestying Pau Gasol and his $19.3 million contract would leave them too far over the luxury-tax line to have access to anything beyond the taxpayer mid-level exception and minimum contracts to improve the roster. Teams that are $4 million or more above the tax line cannot use the full mid-level or bi-annual exceptions to sign free agents. Also, Kobe Bryant, 35, is coming off surgery to repair a torn Achilles' tendon. CBSSports.com

Read more at http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#AyTwLlighavEtKmy.99


Damn, so even if we amnesty Pau, we can't improve our team via free agency?! Too bad there isn't anything else we could do with Pau's expiring contract to improve the team and convince Dwight to come back...


That depends upon what the cap is going to be next season. Rumor has it that it will be much higher. If so, then that could change the situation.
"Every time he’s hurt, he always plays, he always comes through."

- Metta World Peace on teammate Kobe Bryant
revgen
HDTV/Multimedia Guru
 
Posts: 21735
Joined: Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:53 pm
Location: Southern California

Re: D12 Thread: Brushin' his shoulders off (Won't need surgery)

Postby Tobias Funke on Sun May 19, 2013 6:14 pm

Id like Dwight to stay, but if he doesn't feel like he can do it in LA then it'd probably be best if he left. Last thing we need is for him to stay just because he feels like he has to, only to whine and complain every time things aren't rosy because he feels regret over his decision to stay.

As I said before, I just hope he doesn't leave the FO completely in the dark. Mitch can maybe try to work some magic to atleast get a somewhat competitive roster together so that next season isn't hopeless, but obviously their entire approach this summer depends on whether or not they have Dwight Howard re-signed.
"Come hell or high water we're gonna be there again. Its just something about the Lakers organization. Mitch is really, really good at it, he's really really good man...."

- 24
User avatar
Tobias Funke

 
Posts: 5696
Joined: Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:13 am

Re: D12 Thread: Brushin' his shoulders off (Won't need surgery)

Postby lakersin4 on Sun May 19, 2013 6:24 pm

It amazes me how the media talks about Houston having a good team & our roster sucking. Houston had a good team with Yao & Tmac too.. How'd that go? They didn't win anything, blew the team up, now we're back to the same spot. We on the other hand? Our FO builds dynasties & we always stay relevant. If anyone doubts that we'll land a major FA soon or pull off a major trade to put us over the top, they haven't been watching the league long.

If Dwight wants to walk let him do that.. It just means we'll sign 2 stars in 14-15 instead of 1.
lakersin4

 
Posts: 2377
Joined: Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:02 pm

Re: D12 Thread: Brushin' his shoulders off (Won't need surgery)

Postby abeer3 on Sun May 19, 2013 7:03 pm

^^this guy gets it.


As I said before, I just hope he doesn't leave the FO completely in the dark


well, if the story is to be believed, the only nugget of actual information would be that mitch & co. wanted a quick answer. mitch himself said he was going to let Dwight have his time to decide. if this writer actually has info to the contrary (that the lakers asked for a quick decision), that's news. the rest of it (that howard has options, including Houston and dallas), my niece could have told us.

in short, it appears he has left the FO in the dark. that's his right as a free agent. I've said before that i'm not sure howard's decision really makes a difference in terms of what the lakers do. they'll be looking to move pau for young talent regardless. whether they can depends on the market, not their will.

and I agree with lakersin4, for all the bluster, la's much more proven than Houston. it's a bigger risk than the fans/media think to hitch your wagon to morey and harden's star.
abeer3

 
Posts: 10407
Joined: Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:15 pm

Re: D12 Thread: Brushin' his shoulders off (Won't need surgery)

Postby CaCHooKa Man on Sun May 19, 2013 7:42 pm

hes been wearing lakers and los angeles gear while fishing these past few days. were good!

Image
Image
User avatar
CaCHooKa Man
Human Highlight Reel
 
Posts: 20560
Joined: Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:22 pm
Location: Los Angeles

Re: D12 Thread: Brushin' his shoulders off (Won't need surgery)

Postby Tobias Funke on Sun May 19, 2013 7:46 pm

I agree. Referencing him not leaving Mitch in the dark wasn't the best choice of words, as I dont expect him to call up Mitch and tell him "Im meeting with Morey tomorrow". I think a better statement would be that I hope he lets Mitch know his decision as soon as he makes one, even if he decides to keep it a secret for a while.

Sometimes guys decide on a team but still carry on with meetings and playing the media as if they have no clue what they're planning on doing. That really annoys me.

I think he'll be back and I hope Im right tho.
"Come hell or high water we're gonna be there again. Its just something about the Lakers organization. Mitch is really, really good at it, he's really really good man...."

- 24
User avatar
Tobias Funke

 
Posts: 5696
Joined: Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:13 am

Re: D12 Thread: Brushin' his shoulders off (Won't need surgery)

Postby abeer3 on Sun May 19, 2013 7:56 pm

is that an adidas los angeles shirt?

if so, follow up:

do they make adidas Houston shirts?
abeer3

 
Posts: 10407
Joined: Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:15 pm

Re: D12 Thread: Brushin' his shoulders off (Won't need surgery)

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Sun May 19, 2013 8:00 pm

Nothing new in the article. He'll be courted and he'll listen to other offers. If he decides to leave, we'll bounce back on our feet with only once contract heading into 2014/15 season & a first-round draft pick. We'll build through free-agency & and the draft. We're not a bad position at all.
dwighthowardsdad

 
Posts: 1695
Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2012 11:31 am

Re: D12 Thread: Brushin' his shoulders off (Won't need surgery)

Postby XXIV on Sun May 19, 2013 8:02 pm

If I was Dwight I'd make the media go even crazier by wearing different teams gear each day. :man10:
XXIV

 
Posts: 6390
Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:20 am
Location: Los Angeles

Re: D12 Thread: Brushin' his shoulders off (Won't need surgery)

Postby JSM on Sun May 19, 2013 8:07 pm

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 3h
Dwight Howard will be weighing all of his options this summer. He's going shopping and considering all teams. Lakers will have competition.

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 3h
The Nets will likely pursue Dwight Howard this summer. There's still mutual interest. But will the Lakers be open to a sign-and-trade?

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 3h
Nets can sign-and-trade for Howard if their under the apron amount after transaction is complete. That means they must dump salary in deal.

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 3h
The Atlanta Hawks will also pursue Dwight Howard. Their dream scenario is to sign Howard and Chris Paul. They can offer two max contracts.

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 3h
Nets are admittedly a long shot. All I'm saying is that they'll pursue Dwight Howard this summer. They've shown interest very recently.

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 2h
For those of you asking about the Cavaliers, Blazers, etc. in regards to Dwight Howard's free agency, they haven't even been considered.

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 3h
If I had to guess, I think Dwight Howard's free agency comes down to the Houston Rockets and Los Angeles Lakers.

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 2h
Also, Dwight Howard is going to take his time and meet with a lot of teams. Mitch Kupchak wanted him to make decision quickly, but he won't.
User avatar
JSM
ClubLakers.com Administrator
 
Posts: 94034
Joined: Mon Apr 28, 2003 3:40 pm
Location: Atlanta

Re: D12 Thread: Brushin' his shoulders off (Won't need surgery)

Postby Battle Tested20 on Sun May 19, 2013 8:31 pm

CaCHooKa Man wrote:hes been wearing lakers and los angeles gear while fishing these past few days. were good!

Image
Image

looks like he's having a good time haha
Image
"I just put my faith in God. Through him we can do all things"
- Kobe Bryant, March 24, 2004
User avatar
Battle Tested20

 
Posts: 11705
Joined: Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:39 pm
Location: San Diego, CA (SDSU)

Re: Dwight Discussion: Houston we have a problem (986)

Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Sun May 19, 2013 9:01 pm

I doubt he caught those :man10:
"Allons-y Lakers!"
User avatar
KareemTheGreat33

 
Posts: 7834
Joined: Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:52 am
Location: Philippines

Re: Dwight Discussion: Houston we have a problem (986)

Postby JSM on Sun May 19, 2013 9:09 pm

Kennedy's tweets are essentially the cliff note version of this article, not sure if their sources are the same or not.

Ken Berger of CBS Sportsline wrote:With the Lakers hoping for a swift decision from Dwight Howard on his free agency this summer, the All-Star center has given no indication he will rush the process and has privately indicated he plans to give strong consideration to multiple teams, league sources told CBSSports.com.

Though Howard is adamant his free agency not be marred by the circus-like environment that surrounded his departure from Orlando last summer, word already has spread to multiple levels of his support staff that Howard re-signing with the Lakers is far from a done deal.

With six weeks to go before Howard becomes an unrestricted free agent, the team that is said to intrigue him the most is the Houston Rockets, according to multiple people briefed on internal conversations surrounding Howard's free-agent decision. The Rockets have a young star, James Harden, who has proved himself worthy of playing the leading role for the franchise; a budding 3-point shooting threat in Chandler Parsons; a defensive-minded coach in Kevin McHale; and Omer Asik, the kind of 7-footer Howard is believed to want next to him in the frontcourt.

The Rockets are a couple of minor moves away from having room to sign Howard; they have a team option on Francisco Garcia's $6.4 million and Carlos Delfino's $3 million is fully non-guaranteed, for example. If they chose to or needed to make a trade to create room, they have numerous attractive young players on tradable contracts, such as 2012 No. 5 pick Thomas Robinson. Such assets could be moved to a team or teams under the cap to create room or packaged in a possible sign-and-trade with LA -- if the Lakers became convinced Howard would leave and they'd receive nothing in return.

The Mavericks represent another franchise that intrigues Howard, and Dallas is a minor transaction or two away from having enough room to sign Howard outright as an unrestricted free agent. Howard plans to explore all such options, and a person briefed on his plans told CBSSports.com that there are "several" teams the free-agent center is "going to take a hard look at."

The clear advantage for the Lakers in their effort to re-sign Howard is the 2011 collective bargaining agreement, which allows LA to give Howard a five-year deal with annual increases based on 7.5 percent of his first-year salary in a new deal -- which will be in excess of $20 million. Another team with cap room to sign Howard could only give him a four-year deal with 4.5 percent annual increases -- the same arrangement Howard would be limited to if he agreed to leave via a sign-and-trade.

But Howard is only 27, and barring a career-ending injury, he'll clearly get one more max deal after this one. A four-year deal with an opt-out after three years, for example, would in some ways be preferable to Howard because he'd hit the open market again at age 30 and could then secure his five-year max deal. Also, by signing with a team in Texas -- where the Rockets and Mavs obviously reside -- Howard would reap substantial savings by paying no state income tax. According to some early estimates, Howard's tax savings in Texas could approach $10 million over four years.

Though league sources acknowledge it would be difficult for Howard to leave LA and its off-court branding opportunities, Howard would find himself in somewhat of a dead-end in terms of the talent surrounding him with the Lakers going forward. If the Lakers re-signed Howard, even the bold move of amnestying Pau Gasol and his $19.3 million contract would leave them too far over the luxury-tax line to have access to anything beyond the taxpayer mid-level exception and minimum contracts to improve the roster. Teams that are $4 million or more above the tax line cannot use the full mid-level or bi-annual exceptions to sign free agents. Also, Kobe Bryant will be 35 and coming off surgery to repair a torn Achilles tendon.

In the summer of 2014, when LeBron James, Carmelo Anthony and other stars become free agents, the Lakers would only have Howard and Steve Nash under contract. Among the key questions Howard will be asking himself in the next six weeks is whether he's willing to endure another difficult season in LA with the prospect of rebuilding in 2014-15. The Rockets would have Howard, Harden, Asik, Parsons and Jeremy Lin at that point, with flexibility to further upgrade the roster.

One of the people briefed on Howard's plans stressed that no decision has been made on his impending free agency. But with so many options available and issues in play, Howard doesn't seem to be on track for the kind of quick decision the Lakers were hoping for so they'd have time to plan their offseason.

In short: Let the Dwightmare begin. Again.
User avatar
JSM
ClubLakers.com Administrator
 
Posts: 94034
Joined: Mon Apr 28, 2003 3:40 pm
Location: Atlanta

Re: Dwight Discussion: Houston we have a problem (986)

Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Sun May 19, 2013 9:45 pm

Not really worried on Dwight resigning or not... I trust the Lakers FO on personnel matters. Coaching choices not so much.
"Allons-y Lakers!"
User avatar
KareemTheGreat33

 
Posts: 7834
Joined: Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:52 am
Location: Philippines

PreviousNext

Return to The Graveyard

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests

cron
Advertise Here | Privacy Policy | ©2008 Sculu Sports. Come Strong.