OT: " Lamar's Contact Could be Bought Out"

Re: OT: " Lamar's Contact Could be Bought Out"

Postby Rooscooter on Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:32 pm

thkthebest wrote:Are you guys kidding me? Obviously, Pau was a huge part of our success. Even if we got Marion, we wouldn't win anything without Pau so I really don't see the point in bringing that up. Are you really trying to argue that we'd get anywhere with Marion as the second option?

Odom was a huge part of our 2 championship runs. With him in the lineup, our offense was way better than anyone else in the league in 2009. It wasn't as great, but it was still awesome in 2010. Our statistically best lineups included Odom. He hit over 50 3P% in the 09 playoffs. Can Marion do that? He routinely owned Marion in the playoffs. I hope you're not trying to argue that we'd win the 2 championships with Marion playing PF as opposed to Odom.


If you read my post I was saying that Odom is either at or very near the end and Marion is still playing at a very high level. We were rumored to be making that trade and some of the concerns voiced were over Marion's age/longevity....

Anything else is what you are reading into it.....
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Re: OT: " Lamar's Contact Could be Bought Out"

Postby Juronimo on Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:34 pm

thkthebest wrote:Are you guys kidding me? Obviously, Pau was a huge part of our success. Even if we got Marion, we wouldn't win anything without Pau so I really don't see the point in bringing that up. Are you really trying to argue that we'd get anywhere with Marion as the second option?

Odom was a huge part of our 2 championship runs. With him in the lineup, our offense was way better than anyone else in the league in 2009. It wasn't as great, but it was still awesome in 2010. Our statistically best lineups included Odom. He hit over 50 3P% in the 09 playoffs. Can Marion do that? He routinely owned Marion in the playoffs. I hope you're not trying to argue that we'd win the 2 championships with Marion playing PF as opposed to Odom.


If we switch Odom for Marion, no way we win those 2 chips. Odom was our point forward, he set up the offense so Kobe didn't have to, not to mention rebounding like mad and scoring when we needed it. We don't have that now and we're struggling.

Odom's game was so much more versatile, he could come off the bench and when Bynum went down, he and Pau had excellent chemistry in the front court.

Odom was huge for us, huge. It's unfortunate that events have turned out the way they have but he was part of our team for 6 years, helped us win 2 rings and was part of us going from 1st round fodder to NBA champions.
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Re: OT: " Lamar's Contact Could be Bought Out"

Postby Helljumper on Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:34 pm

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Re: OT: " Lamar's Contact Could be Bought Out"

Postby Rooscooter on Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:42 pm

Helljumper wrote:Odom > Murphy


2010 version or the one in Dallas?.... it's really really close if you mean the current one.... He is disinterested and looks like he's playing with a piano on his back. It's sad to watch really.....
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Re: OT: " Lamar's Contact Could be Bought Out"

Postby ryder1 on Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:45 pm

@sam_amick:

He's owed $8.9 million this year (pro-rated, 66 gms), $2 million buyout for next season. But source tells me buyout isn't going to happen.
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Re: OT: " Lamar's Contact Could be Bought Out"

Postby Mr_Hollywood_Line on Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:07 pm

Helljumper wrote:Odom > Murphy


This.

Can we trade Murphy and Kapono for LO?
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Re: OT: " Lamar's Contact Could be Bought Out"

Postby therealdeal on Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:09 pm

I'd love for him to come back here and you guys are crazy if you don't think he'd help. I don't think he'd do it, but it'd be fun...

in a year when it's possible. Until then I hope he gets his head on straight.
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Re: OT: " Lamar's Contact Could be Bought Out"

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:14 pm

Well it will give him time to get his mind straight and perhaps we can resign him in the summer.
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Re: OT: " Lamar's Contact Could be Bought Out"

Postby bruddahmanmatt on Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:18 pm

This thread is proof that some folks here simply don't watch basketball outside of Laker games.
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Re: OT: " Lamar's Contact Could be Bought Out"

Postby FabFourLakers on Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:18 pm

That sucks because he can't even come back and sign with us until December of next year. Would have loved to re-sign him if we end up trading Gasol for Rondo or something....

And he has been horrible this year but its really all MENTAL for LO...we all know this.
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Re: OT: " Lamar's Contact Could be Bought Out"

Postby earvinfr on Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:21 pm

Why the Mavs would wave LO ? It's not for cap space, since he can't be amnestied. He's expiring so he's a nice trade asset for a team ready for salary dump. If it's only to make room to add another player, than they might have other unused players they can wave.
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Re: OT: " Lamar's Contact Could be Bought Out"

Postby bruddahmanmatt on Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:24 pm

Given that only a very small portion of LO's contract is guaranteed next season it really speaks to his play if Dallas is considering dumping him sooner rather than later. It also goes to show you how little trade value he really has if the Mavs are thinking of offering him a buyout. I still remember how so many folks insisted that Odom was worth more than a late 1st rounder on the open market but clearly no one is willing to take him back.
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Re: OT: " Lamar's Contact Could be Bought Out"

Postby ChumsGum on Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:47 pm

LO is a great guy but i wouldn't want him back, he's playing awful.

i'm still pulling for the guy and hopes he finds a new home with the nets for the knicks.
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Re: OT: " Lamar's Contact Could be Bought Out"

Postby Phil XI on Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:52 pm

Hope Odom goes to New Jersey so Khloe would have to see Humphries every day. Ah the irony the NBA can unexpectedly bring :jam2:
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Re: OT: " Lamar's Contact Could be Bought Out"

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:00 pm

Phil XI wrote:Hope Odom goes to New Jersey so Khloe would have to see Humphries every day. Ah the irony the NBA can unexpectedly bring :jam2:

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Re: OT: " Lamar's Contact Could be Bought Out"

Postby brickshooter on Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:09 pm

I sure miss Lamar's 15ppg.

I'd be surprised if Riley isn't on the phones to Lamar as I write this.
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Re: OT: " Lamar's Contact Could be Bought Out"

Postby Shadow on Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:09 pm

I can see him coming back to L.A. just not the Lakers, this time the Clippers, he'll probably be teaming up again with his old buddy Caron Butler!
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Re: OT: " Lamar's Contact Could be Bought Out"

Postby Kasumi on Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:46 pm

Phil XI wrote:2011 CBA: If a player is traded and subsequently waived by his new team, he cannot re-sign with his original team for one year following the trade or until July 1 after the last season of the player's contract, whichever is earlier.

It's the Bruce Bowen rule...
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Re: OT: " Lamar's Contact Could be Bought Out"

Postby The Laker Link on Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:47 pm

I would be cool with it.....not to be a tool, but does that eat into the money we got for him?
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Re: OT: " Lamar's Contact Could be Bought Out"

Postby Steez on Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:51 pm

Mark Cuban said that they have no intentions of waiving him and will support him through this tough time.
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Re: OT: " Lamar's Contact Could be Bought Out"

Postby Rooscooter on Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:08 pm

Steez wrote:Mark Cuban said that they have no intentions of waiving him and will support him through this tough time.


Good for Cuban.... some may hate him for what ever reason but when it comes down to it..... I'd work for him in a heartbeat.

We all know Odom's trials away from basketball and how he can't seem to "compartmentalize" them... I hope he gets his head straight and can return to prior form. Right now he's not playing well at all and seems really disinterested. It is really sad to watch.
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Mavericks Won't Buyout Lamar, Will Remain Patient

Postby Kobe8Fan on Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:09 pm

Mavericks Won't Buyout Lamar, Will Remain Patient

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DALLAS -- Lamar Odom did not report back to the Dallas Mavericks on Monday and coach Rick Carlisle did not give a timetable for the forward's return.

Odom left the team last Wednesday to attend to his ill father in Los Angeles, a source confirmed. Odom missed the Mavs' loss to his former team, the Lakers, and apparently won't be in uniform when Dallas resumes the regular season at home Tuesday night against the New Jersey Nets.

"Lamar is not here today," Carlisle said Monday. "He is still dealing with a family matter and the hope is he'll join us soon, and we'll update you when there's an update."

Amid rumors that Odom might not return to the Mavericks and a midseason buyout could be a possibility, owner Mark Cuban told ESPNDallas.com's Tim MacMahon via email Monday night: "We haven't discussed a buyout and we wouldn't do a buyout. No chance that happens at all. We want to help Lamar work through any personal issues and expect him to be a valuable contributor to the Mavs this season. Players go through challenges from time to time and we try to be (an) organization that fully supports our players when things are challenging for them. We will do the same for Lamar."

Two sources with knowledge of Odom's thinking told ESPN.com's Marc Stein on Monday night that -- while the 32-year-old admittedly did briefly ponder retirement during the offseason following the death of a younger cousin -- Odom wants to keep playing despite his season-long struggles.

Guard Rodrigue Beaubois did return to the Mavs on Monday. The third-year guard missed the last five games after the death of his father.

Odom has had a disappointing two months in his first season with the Mavs. He had trouble overcoming the death of his younger cousin last summer and reported to the Mavs admittedly out of shape.

He has averaged 7.7 points and 4.5 rebounds in 32 games. He won the league's Sixth Man of the Year award last season with the Lakers having averaged 14.4 points and 8.7 rebounds.

After three hopeful games in which Odom averaged 11.0 points on 13-of-25 shooting and 3.9 rebounds, Odom followed up in his final three games before the All-Star break with a total of 11 points and 13 rebounds.

Carlisle expressed optimism Friday during his weekly appearance on ESPN Dallas 103.3 FM's "Galloway & Co." that Odom was getting close to turning a corner.

"I think we're closer than we've ever been to him playing well," Carlisle said. "We've just got to stay the course and stay positive about it. The guy's too good of a player and ... he has two bad games in a row and everybody's ready to jump again, but I'm not going there.

"I'm looking forward to getting him back after the break, and we're going to get right back at it. These nine games in 12 days will completely immerse all of us, and we won't have time to think twice about anything, so we're just going to play."


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Re: OT: " Lamar's Contact Could be Bought Out"

Postby GoldenKnight on Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:18 pm

I wish Lamar well man, he decided to take the 6th man role for the better of the team, he loved L.A...

But at the end of the day it is a business, doesn't mean emotions don't exist.
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Re: OT: " Lamar's Contact Could be Bought Out"

Postby davriver290 on Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:54 pm

Lamar is struggling, because I honestly believe he does not want to be on the Mavericks, or is just not motivated anymore after the trade. I'm sure a familiar arena will make him feel that much better. I'd be willing to take him back, and trade Mcroberts away. But Odom has to take a serious paycut.
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Re: OT: " Lamar's Contact Could be Bought Out"

Postby thkthebest on Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:47 pm

Rooscooter wrote:
Steez wrote:Mark Cuban said that they have no intentions of waiving him and will support him through this tough time.


Good for Cuban.... some may hate him for what ever reason but when it comes down to it..... I'd work for him in a heartbeat.

We all know Odom's trials away from basketball and how he can't seem to "compartmentalize" them... I hope he gets his head straight and can return to prior form. Right now he's not playing well at all and seems really disinterested. It is really sad to watch.

We hate him because he whines/complains, but deep down, we'd all probably be really glad to have him as our owner. At the very least, we wouldn't have people hating him like they hate Jim Buss. :man10:
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