CJ Miles drawing interest from Lakers (signing w/Cavs)

Re: CJ Miles drawing serious interest from the Lakers

Postby Punk-101 on Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:05 am

I wonder if Rush woulda bitten on mMLE X3 or if GSW would have been willing to up the offer to 4mil X 3 to keep him? On a side note, does the retaining team of a RFA have a minimum they have to match for another team's offer. For example, if we offered 3.1/3 years and Rush said yes, could GSW offer 3.2/3 years? Can the player choose the lower offer or does the team have the control? Sorry, these are kindergarten Q's.
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Re: CJ Miles drawing serious interest from the Lakers

Postby Doc Brown on Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:09 am

^^^GSW has the right to match any offer. So if the Lakers offered that, they could counter with the same offer and retain him, or offer more and retain him.

The only way we could of gotten rush (aside from a S&T), is by offering the mini-MLE and GSW saying they aren't going to match it.
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Re: CJ Miles drawing serious interest from the Lakers

Postby Punk-101 on Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:12 am

Thanks Doc. That's what I thought.
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Re: CJ Miles drawing serious interest from the Lakers

Postby khmrP on Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:13 am

I'm sure there was a good chance GSW would've matched, all I'm saying is that it wouldn't have hurt to test them :man1: , might have made them a lil hesistant with the 3yr and trying to get Landry at the time.
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Re: CJ Miles drawing serious interest from the Lakers

Postby lakerfan2 on Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:43 am

he's a gritty SG/SF that hustles. for part of the mini-MLE? why not.

how many roster spots do we have currently?
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Re: CJ Miles drawing serious interest from the Lakers

Postby Murdock on Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:11 am

nthydro wrote:The last 3 role players who were hyped up by CL turned out to be busts, at least when it came to the playoffs.

that can be said of any laker last two seasons
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Re: CJ Miles drawing serious interest from the Lakers

Postby khmrP on Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:13 am

^^^I only thought Blake was overhyped cause we were so bad at PG and he did drop a triple double on us the last game of the season before he got signed. I was on that hype train :man6: but we had Fisher as the starter so pretty much everybody thought anything was better than Fish, apparently not.
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Re: CJ Miles drawing serious interest from the Lakers

Postby Whatthef? on Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:07 pm

Meeks or Miles? Lakers need bench scoring=Meeks. Defense=Miles
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Re: CJ Miles drawing serious interest from the Lakers

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:10 pm

Whatthef? wrote:Meeks or Miles? Lakers need bench scoring=Meeks. Defense=Miles

Miles is actually a better scorer than Meeks.
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Re: CJ Miles drawing serious interest from the Lakers

Postby Thenextgreat on Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:38 pm

Miles is a decent player...wouldn't mind picking him up.
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Re: CJ Miles drawing serious interest from the Lakers

Postby NeeJee on Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:44 pm

Miles would be awesome next to Nash. But then again, a lot of players would/could be awesome next to Nash.
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Re: CJ Miles drawing serious interest from the Lakers

Postby therealdeal on Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:47 pm

KeepBynum wrote:
Whatthef? wrote:Meeks or Miles? Lakers need bench scoring=Meeks. Defense=Miles

Miles is actually a better scorer than Meeks.

How so?
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Re: CJ Miles drawing serious interest from the Lakers

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:53 pm

therealdeal wrote:
KeepBynum wrote:
Whatthef? wrote:Meeks or Miles? Lakers need bench scoring=Meeks. Defense=Miles

Miles is actually a better scorer than Meeks.

How so?

He averages more points.
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Re: CJ Miles drawing serious interest from the Lakers

Postby therealdeal on Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:02 pm

KeepBynum wrote:
therealdeal wrote:
KeepBynum wrote:
Whatthef? wrote:Meeks or Miles? Lakers need bench scoring=Meeks. Defense=Miles

Miles is actually a better scorer than Meeks.

How so?

He averages more points.

On far worse percentages. Jodie Meeks also scored more points overall than Miles did last season (Meeks scored 556 and Miles scored 508). I think both of them are average scorers, but bring something unique and different to the team. Meeks is a better shooter and Miles is a better attacker (he's far more athletic which helps).

I think it's difficult to say Miles is a better scorer. Meeks has had similar success in less than half the time that Miles has had in the NBA. They're closer to equal than anything else.
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Re: CJ Miles drawing serious interest from the Lakers

Postby jamabile on Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:09 pm

I wouldn't mind this signing at all. He'd be un upgrade at the backup SF spot over Ebanks and overall bench. If you can get him at this point, you do it. I wonder if this would take us out of the race for Meeks financially?
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Re: CJ Miles drawing serious interest from the Lakers

Postby therealdeal on Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:20 pm

^ We're likely offering Meeks the minimum, so I doubt it. It would likely mean McRoberts/Ebanks departure though. They're deadweight if we get Meeks and Miles (Ebanks because of position and McRoberts because of his contract).
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Re: CJ Miles drawing serious interest from the Lakers

Postby khmrP on Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:20 pm

jamabile wrote:I wouldn't mind this signing at all. He'd be un upgrade at the backup SF spot over Ebanks and overall bench. If you can get him at this point, you do it. I wonder if this would take us out of the race for Meeks financially?


if the offer was vet min for Meeks, I wouldn't think giving Miles mini MLE would affect the Meeks offer. Could just drop Glock and or McRoberts at a later time.
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Re: CJ Miles drawing serious interest from the Lakers

Postby Kobe Bryant 8 on Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:21 pm

KeepBynum wrote:
therealdeal wrote:
KeepBynum wrote:
Whatthef? wrote:Meeks or Miles? Lakers need bench scoring=Meeks. Defense=Miles

Miles is actually a better scorer than Meeks.

How so?

He averages more points.


:bang:

Josh Smith averages more points than Andrew Bynum. Who's the better scorer?

9.1ppg, 38% shooting on 8.3fga for Miles.
8.4ppg, 41% shooting on 7.1fga for Meeks.

Even using simple, simple stats, how is Miles a better scorer?

- Meeks had a eFG% of 49% on jumpers and took them 83% of the time.
- Miles had a eFG% of 39% on jumpers and took them 77% of the time.

Meeks is a more consistent longball shooter. He's a better FT shooter. Meeks shoots a higher % from inside and close shots. Overall, he's more efficient by far offensively.

If Meeks took less 3's and focused more on midrange shots, he'd be close to a 45% shooter. For a back-up 2 that's great. But he takes a lot of three's - and make a good percentage of them - so it doesn't look as flashy... even though he still shoots a better overall percentage than Miles.
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Re: CJ Miles drawing serious interest from the Lakers

Postby jamabile on Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:26 pm

Thanks for the responses. Those two additions would help our bench, obviously. I would still like to get rid of Blake and upgrade that backup 1 position behind Nash. Beggars can't be choosers, though.
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Re: CJ Miles drawing serious interest from the Lakers

Postby therealdeal on Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:30 pm

jamabile wrote:Thanks for the responses. Those two additions would help our bench, obviously. I would still like to get rid of Blake and upgrade that backup 1 position behind Nash. Beggars can't be choosers, though.

It's seeming unlikely, barring some sort of out-of-the-blue trade. He's a decent enough body and if we have a legitimate backup 2, Blake will play only the backup 1 which is fine. My biggest problem was watching him try to play SG when he couldn't defend opposing SGs and wouldn't shoot even when wide open.

A bench of Blake/Meeks/Miles (or even Ebanks)/Jamison/Hill is a good bench, probably a B to a B+ type of bench.
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Re: CJ Miles drawing serious interest from the Lakers

Postby jamabile on Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:39 pm

^Agreed. The OJ Mayo's Nick Young's, murdered us because Steve wasn't big enough to guard those positions. The backcourt of Ramon and Steve was laughable; we know Ramon couldn't play any defense and as for Steve trying to guard those SG's was a disaster in the making.

That aside, the key is to build enough depth within the bench so Kobe/Nash/Gasol/Bynum can have their minutes managed in the regular season to prepare for the playoffs. If we can get to the playoffs healthy & rested, that would be a huge plus.
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Re: CJ Miles drawing serious interest from the Lakers

Postby therealdeal on Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:49 pm

jamabile wrote:^Agreed. The OJ Mayo's Nick Young's, murdered us because Steve wasn't big enough to guard those positions. The backcourt of Ramon and Steve was laughable; we know Ramon couldn't play any defense and as for Steve trying to guard those SG's was a disaster in the making.

That aside, the key is to build enough depth within the bench so Kobe/Nash/Gasol/Bynum can have their minutes managed in the regular season to prepare for the playoffs. If we can get to the playoffs healthy & rested, that would be a huge plus.

Health is obvious, but the key word to me is "rested". Last season we watched Kobe get worked into the ground behind an offensive "scheme" that just didn't work.

If we have a real bench, we can stop worrying so much about overplaying Kobe, Nash, and Gasol. Blake played a ton of minutes last season, so him I'm alright with, but high minutes for Goudelock and Ebanks or heaven forbid Eyenga, makes me nervous. Well actually, I'd be alright with Ebanks or Eyenga as long as we got a backup 2.

Nash/Blake
Bryant/Meeks
Artest/Ebanks(or Eyenga)
Gasol/Jamison
Bynum/ Hill

That's a good team. The SF spot and Blake are big weaknesses, but they aren't absolutely devestating.
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Re: CJ Miles drawing serious interest from the Lakers

Postby recoveringusername on Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:55 pm

From what I have read, Jazz fans are relieved to get rid of him. According to them, Miles has a low IQ and chucks the ball thinking hes a young Kobe. He shows flashes that make you believe he will break out but then reverts back to the low IQ, inconsistent Miles that doesn't play with 100% passion.

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imo we should split the mini mle for both Miles and Meeks. kill 2 birds with one stone
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Re: CJ Miles drawing serious interest from the Lakers

Postby Kit on Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:58 pm

KeepBynum wrote:
therealdeal wrote:
KeepBynum wrote:
Whatthef? wrote:Meeks or Miles? Lakers need bench scoring=Meeks. Defense=Miles

Miles is actually a better scorer than Meeks.

How so?

He averages more points.



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Re: CJ Miles drawing serious interest from the Lakers

Postby denimPortugal on Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:12 pm

Do it MITCH!!! :man13: :jam2:
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