Steve Nash is best realistic top point guard option for LA

eltoro · by **eltoro** on Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:39 pm

Lets get this outta the way. Every major news source from ESPN to the local city paper is saying Deron only is considering the Nets and Mavs as potential free agent teams. All that talk a few weeks ago from sources saying he was interested in LA was just bull. Agents do this stuff all the time and get these phoney sources telling reporters where a star player is interested to increase their leverage in contract negotiations. Deron was probably never really interested in LA.

Nash, on the other hand, would be interested. He has already stated how much respect he has for Kobe's game. Out of all the realistic options out there, he is the best available PG to kick start this offense. Kobe only has a few yrs left, and we need a PG that can hit the open 3 and run the pick and roll to our bigs. Lakers would be unstoppable, and World Peace would more than make up for Nash defensive shortcomings.

kenzo · by **kenzo** on Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:42 pm

Steve still wants $$$ so this is not happening.

ladam24 · by **ladam24** on Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:59 pm

kenzo wrote:Steve still wants $$$ so this is not happening.

I'd still take him. Bynum and/or Pau would need to man up on defense though. We're getting none of that from Nash.

Finwë · by **Finwë** on Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:06 am

ladam24 wrote:
kenzo wrote:Steve still wants $$$ so this is not happening.

I'd still take him. Bynum and/or Pau would need to man up on defense though. We're getting none of that from Nash.

We don't have $$ to offer, it's not about wanting to offer him money or not, it's about being over the cap.

eltoro · by **eltoro** on Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:15 am

Nash is willing to take less money for a longer contract and a chance to win a championship. He has a couple MVPs. He's seen everyone now saying Dallas' success whe he was there ws because of Novitski. Now, he wants to win. Money is secondary.

Doc Brown · by **Doc Brown** on Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:39 am

eltoro wrote:Nash is willing to take less money for a longer contract and a chance to win a championship. He has a couple MVPs. He's seen everyone now saying Dallas' success whe he was there ws because of Novitski. Now, he wants to win. Money is secondary.

SmoothOperator · by **SmoothOperator** on Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:33 am

Does anybody with knowledge of the new CBA know if we're able to use the Odom TPE to sign and trade for Nash?

In my mind if we offer him a 2 year deal (1 with player option) at 8 mil/year... he probably would bite. It'll offer him a spot on a contending team and money, both of what he wants. In exchange for the Sun's cooperation we give them the TPE and our 2nd round pick or something.

Texas Lakers Fan · by **Texas Lakers Fan** on Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:40 am

He's going to Toronto.

eltoro · by **eltoro** on Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:16 am

SmoothOperator wrote:

In my mind if we offer him a 2 year deal (1 with player option) at 8 mil/year... he probably would bite. It'll offer him a spot on a contending team and money, both of what he wants. In exchange for the Sun's cooperation we give them the TPE and our 2nd round pick or something.

This would be a decent deal, IMO, for both the Lakers and Suns. If we concede that Toronto is in the driver's seat with getting Nash, we might as well just resign ourselves to knowing the Lakers will be kicked out of the playoffs next year in the 1st round. There are no other better realistic options out there at the PG position that won't make the Lakers worse than they already are.

Basically, if LA doesn't get Deron or Nash, then that's it. No more championship contenders for the foreseeable future.

Doc Brown · by **Doc Brown** on Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:32 pm

eltoro wrote:Basically, if LA doesn't get Deron or Nash, then that's it. No more championship contenders for the foreseeable future.

Yes, because those two guys are the only two guys in the league that can save us from a championship drought. :freak2:

Phil XI · by **Phil XI** on Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:38 pm

SmoothOperator wrote:Does anybody with knowledge of the new CBA know if we're able to use the Odom TPE to sign and trade for Nash?

In my mind if we offer him a 2 year deal (1 with player option) at 8 mil/year... he probably would bite. It'll offer him a spot on a contending team and money, both of what he wants. In exchange for the Sun's cooperation we give them the TPE and our 2nd round pick or something.

Yes, PHX can SnT him for a TPE. No other team can.

Magic Skywalker · by **Magic Skywalker** on Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:43 pm

"The truth is I'm a bit old school. For me, it would be hard to put on a Lakers jersey. That's just the way it is," Nash said.

abeer3 · by **abeer3** on Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:56 pm

i'll say it again (and be attacked again): bynum for nash/gortat/pick.

i'd so do it.

XXIV · by **XXIV** on Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:58 pm

abeer3 wrote:i'll say it again (and be attacked again): bynum for nash/gortat/pick.

i'd so do it.

It's something I would consider, but I'd much rather try to trade Pau for that deal than Bynum. And then try to flip Gortat for a couple of good players.

abeer3 · by **abeer3** on Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:13 pm

i just like gortat. he's strong enough to defend big centers, for the most part, but mobile enough to play pick and roll d. on offense, he has a solid standstill jumper and good hands. he finishes well in traffic and off the roll. he's underrated and underpaid relative to his production. he would work perfectly next to pau, imo--allowing pau to do more on offense by not clogging the lane. add in one of the best floor generals in the business, and you've improved the team despite giving up the most valuable player in the trade. the real key would be getting phx to include the 8th pick along with those two. they might balk at that.

eltoro · by **eltoro** on Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:16 pm

Doc Brown wrote:
eltoro wrote:Basically, if LA doesn't get Deron or Nash, then that's it. No more championship contenders for the foreseeable future.

Yes, because those two guys are the only two guys in the league that can save us from a championship drought.

Realistically, yes. After Deron and Nash, there are a number of guys who the Lakers have no realistic shot of getting. I'm talking about guys like Chris Paul, Rajon Rondo, etc.. So, realistically yes. Deron and Nash are the only guys that the Lakers have a chance of maybe getting that can help them win a championship. And it looks like Deron isn't really interested in LA after all.

Rooscooter · by **Rooscooter** on Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:29 pm

Nash isn't a good fit for LA. Much like Paul he's really good at only one thing.... the Pick and Roll.... This type of offense really doesn't involve Kobe that much other than a spot up shooter or cutter...... after 16 years I'm not sure he's making that change in his game. So.... we get a hybrid offense that leaves a guy like Nash without the ball quite a bit.... that's definitely not his strength.

D-Will on the other hand is a perfect fit for us. He can play off the ball.... can get to the hoop without the benefit of 2 or 3 screens and can create his own shot.... and is large/quick enough to guard point guards and shooting guards..... again neither Nash or Paul can do that either.....

Lakerjones · by **Lakerjones** on Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:27 pm

^^ I agree with Roo in that I think D. Will is the perfect PG for us. Problem is we'd have to give up Bynum to get him. I'd still do it if we moved Bynum +1 guy (Blake realistically), for D. Will and Lopez. That would give us a decent center and a Pau/D. Will/Kobe core to work with. I'll take that over any trade option I've heard this summer. D. Will would be a very nice player to transition with into the Kobe twilight years/retirement.

I know Roo isn't a fan of a potential Pau/Lopez front court, but for the opp to pair them and Kobe up with D. Will I would do it in a heartbeat.

D. Will is the kind of fierce competitor we need - he's like CP3 in that way, but I prefer his game, and especially alongside Kobe.

TIME · by **TIME** on Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:19 pm

Already an open Steve Nash thread open here:

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