Why didn't Kapono work out?

Why didn't Kapono work out?

Postby superboy2 on Sat May 19, 2012 10:41 pm

The easy answer is that he couldn't play defense, or he was too dumb to learn the offense, or something like that.

But here are the facts:
Lakers have needed a 3-point shooter for years. It's not that hard to find three-point specialists. Anyone who has played has known many peers who can learn to consistently hit an open 3-point shot. And it's no different in the NBA. An open 3-point shot is the same everywhere. It's one thing if Kobe hits a tough three with guys all over him and being double-teamed, etc. But a benchwarmer three-point specialist is not that kind of skill, and is relatively common, even in college, high school, league ball, etc. I just don't see it being such a difficult thing to find.

That's why my crazy theory is that the NBA, whatever its agenda might be, doesn't really want the Lakers being known as a good three point shooting team. In fact, we've seen in the last 2-3 years, maybe 4, where the Lakers came out to start the season totally hot from three point land. And then it just goes away due to various reasons. Sometimes everyone complains about not pounding it in, sometimes they say the players are just "streaky", sometimes they are accused of not learning the system or playing defense. but the end result is that the three-point shooting, which seemed really good and consistent, disappears.

Is it crazy? Sure, i suppose. but we saw the NBA do some weird things with the Chris Paul trade. And no matter what the official explanation was, the end result is that CP3 went to the Clippers and not the Lakers. And that is something to keep in mind when questioning these sort of crazy theories. They sound crazy, but look at the end result. Why do certain refs seem to be around during the "shady" games? I have a million of these questions. Everyone explains it with cliches, but they don't jive at all with what we're seeing. "Oh, the calls just balance out." ok...but how is it that one game, Perkins can give a zillion moving screens, and the next game he is called for ALL of them to the point? Is that just by chance? Or is there an agenda? What is going on?
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Re: Why didn't Kapono work out?

Postby 24K GOLD on Sat May 19, 2012 10:42 pm

He sucks.
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Re: Why didn't Kapono work out?

Postby RushDelivery on Sat May 19, 2012 10:42 pm

Great first post :freak2:
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Re: Why didn't Kapono work out?

Postby CaCHooKa Man on Sat May 19, 2012 10:43 pm

didnt read your post but he was done years ago
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Re: Why didn't Kapono work out?

Postby superboy2 on Sat May 19, 2012 10:44 pm

RushDelivery wrote:Great first post :freak2:

I've been permanantly banned in another forum for asking this question:
"Mods, why are conspiracy threads always locked?"

So there's more coming!! Unless I get banned here too.
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Re: Why didn't Kapono work out?

Postby Doc Brown on Sat May 19, 2012 10:44 pm

Because he didn't hit his open shots. /thread.
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Re: Why didn't Kapono work out?

Postby trodgers on Sat May 19, 2012 10:46 pm

Isn't it obvious? He was done. He had nothing to offer. He couldn't shoot. In the past two seasons, he struggled to get into the rotation. He shot 9/35 on threes and 28/83 on FGs. No conspiracy.
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Re: Why didn't Kapono work out?

Postby superboy2 on Sat May 19, 2012 11:01 pm

It appears to be obvious, until you ask the question..."Well, why don't they just figure out how to shoot threes better?" You guys missed the meat of my point: making open three point shots is not an elite level skill. A team with the money and importance of the Lakers shouldn't have such a hard time finding an effective bench three point shooter. it's just not that hard. It's not like finding the next Kobe, or the next Lebron. We all know a normal, everyday baller friend who can knock down threes like butter. Whatever you want to say about the NBA and the different mindset, and adjusting to the "stage" and all that...it's still not that hard of a skill. If you have a Pau, bynum, and Kobe...really all you need to do is be able to consistently knock down a wide open three. I just don't think it's that hard to find. So that's why i think there's something going on where either the Lakers just don't want it, or the league doesn't want the lakers to have it, or something.

There's nothing conspiracy about this. trodgers, that's you. Conspiracy means something illegal has happened. This has nothing to do with illegal activity. I'm just wondering why the Lakers can't find a three point shooter.
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Re: Why didn't Kapono work out?

Postby Finwë on Sat May 19, 2012 11:03 pm

Mike Brown's offense.
No ability other than his shooting.
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Re: Why didn't Kapono work out?

Postby BadCoaching on Sat May 19, 2012 11:05 pm

Kapono didn't work out.. because he literally.. never worked out (in the gym). Guy was soft as hell, getting fat and bricked all of his shots. He's been done for years, he never played any defense even in his prime.

Other than that he's freaking amazing. I'd rather have Smush Parker, the fat version, than Kapono....
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Re: Why didn't Kapono work out?

Postby superboy2 on Sat May 19, 2012 11:10 pm

ok ok...I accept that Kapono just sucks.

Still doesn't answer why one of the most elite sports franchises in history can't find a three point shooter. It's like the Yankees not being able to find a good closer. I think it's worse because closing is a much more rare and difficult skill than a three point specialist. It's more like the Yankees not being able to find a good base stealer, when that is the one thing that is KILLING them in games. Just go find someone really fast, it's like that. Just go find someone that can knock down threes. It's not that hard.
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Re: Why didn't Kapono work out?

Postby Weezy on Sat May 19, 2012 11:11 pm

Is this a serious question? He sucked, he was done. Your "easy" answer is the right one, he was slow and couldn't play defense, and since he wasn't hitting the 3, he was basically a shorter Luke Walton.
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Re: Why didn't Kapono work out?

Postby superboy2 on Sat May 19, 2012 11:14 pm

Weezy wrote:Is this a serious question? He sucked, he was done. Your "easy" answer is the right one, he was slow and couldn't play defense, and since he wasn't hitting the 3, he was basically a shorter Luke Walton.

Are you being serious? Didn't I just say in the previous post that I accept that Kapono sucks and I've moved on to a more interesting question?
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Re: Why didn't Kapono work out?

Postby Weezy on Sat May 19, 2012 11:23 pm

superboy2 wrote:
Weezy wrote:Is this a serious question? He sucked, he was done. Your "easy" answer is the right one, he was slow and couldn't play defense, and since he wasn't hitting the 3, he was basically a shorter Luke Walton.

Are you being serious? Didn't I just say in the previous post that I accept that Kapono sucks and I've moved on to a more interesting question?


I didn't see your post before I submitted mine, had already typed it out before you posted what you did. To answer your question, apparently it is hard to find a good 3 point shooter, otherwise all teams would have one. Part of it is money, we can only give out minimum contracts, hard to find a 3 point star with that. Even when we spend though, like on Vlad Rad, they don't seem to pan out, and I honestly have no idea why.
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Re: Why didn't Kapono work out?

Postby bruddahmanmatt on Sat May 19, 2012 11:27 pm

superboy2 wrote:
RushDelivery wrote:Great first post :freak2:

I've been permanantly banned in another forum for asking this question:
"Mods, why are conspiracy threads always locked?"

So there's more coming!! Unless I get banned here too.


I'd love a link to said forum.
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Re: Why didn't Kapono work out?

Postby DHL on Sat May 19, 2012 11:30 pm

i'm embarrassed for you
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Re: Why didn't Kapono work out?

Postby PurpleNGold1 on Sat May 19, 2012 11:48 pm

like another laker fan sayd on this site one trick pony that couldnt even do that right
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Re: Why didn't Kapono work out?

Postby Lakers808 on Sat May 19, 2012 11:50 pm

delete this thread , wtf, didn't you see him play this year???? i was celebrating when lakers got rid of him. This dude was more worried about his hair and appearance than making 3's. There was a interview of him and how he idolized wally zerbiak's hair and wanted to look as good as him, wtf man.
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Re: Why didn't Kapono work out?

Postby superboy2 on Sat May 19, 2012 11:51 pm

bruddahmanmatt wrote:
superboy2 wrote:
RushDelivery wrote:Great first post :freak2:

I've been permanantly banned in another forum for asking this question:
"Mods, why are conspiracy threads always locked?"

So there's more coming!! Unless I get banned here too.


I'd love a link to said forum.

you asked, i give:
http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=141617

hope you like!
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Re: Why didn't Kapono work out?

Postby superboy2 on Sun May 20, 2012 12:02 am

Weezy wrote:
superboy2 wrote:
Weezy wrote:Is this a serious question? He sucked, he was done. Your "easy" answer is the right one, he was slow and couldn't play defense, and since he wasn't hitting the 3, he was basically a shorter Luke Walton.

Are you being serious? Didn't I just say in the previous post that I accept that Kapono sucks and I've moved on to a more interesting question?


I didn't see your post before I submitted mine, had already typed it out before you posted what you did. To answer your question, apparently it is hard to find a good 3 point shooter, otherwise all teams would have one. Part of it is money, we can only give out minimum contracts, hard to find a 3 point star with that. Even when we spend though, like on Vlad Rad, they don't seem to pan out, and I honestly have no idea why.

no problem. my bad, i jumped the gun there a bit. I'm too used to seeing comments like DHL above. I've learned that for any kind of subjective question, i have to brace myself against all the initial accusations of idiocy or conspiracy, etc. until people start reading the actual words and discussing them.

I still claim that it's just not that hard to find good three point shooters, due to reasons I explained above a couple of times already. I'm wondering why they don't ever pan out like you say. It seems weird. If I was the GM and I knew a solid three point shooter is what keeps this team from blowing out the likes of okc, why wouldn't i exert all my efforts to find it? there could be lots of answers. the first mistake we make is that teams think like fans. they don't. As fans, we want championships. we want them all, we don't want any other team getting close. but a real team doesn't work that way because it's unrealistic and not necessarily the best thing to do in terms of business. so in this case, even though its obvious we need a three point shooter, it doesn't appear to be that much of a concern for the NBA or the Lakers, or whoever that decision rests on. It could be that teams think Lakers are already too good and spoiled with stars and a good shooter will just make it worse. or cp3. this is not a crazy theory, this is really what is happening. most fans don't care about this or don't know, so it sounds ridiculous, but it's nothing that unusual.

Jalen Rose pretty explicitly said as much in that infamous showdown with Skip bayless recently. SO I'm just wondering about these things. DHL, not sure what is embarrassing about this. If this embarrasses you, I would be terrified of the real world.
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Re: Why didn't Kapono work out?

Postby jamabile on Sun May 20, 2012 12:11 am

Yeah, he was also cut from the Cavaliers. So apparently they didn't see nothing in him either...
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Re: Why didn't Kapono work out?

Postby superboy2 on Sun May 20, 2012 12:25 am

jamabile wrote:Yeah, he was also cut from the Cavaliers. So apparently they didn't see nothing in him either...

i think most of us here, including myself, agree that kapono sucks.

now...what about others? why is it so hard for the lakers to get a reliable three point shooter?
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Re: Why didn't Kapono work out?

Postby KB24 on Sun May 20, 2012 1:50 am

because he sucks.
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Re: Why didn't Kapono work out?

Postby superboy2 on Sun May 20, 2012 1:03 pm

KB24 wrote:because he sucks.

Thank you, site admin kb24. Way to contribute! :bow:
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Re: Why didn't Kapono work out?

Postby KB24 on Sun May 20, 2012 1:24 pm

^you're welcome. Answered it the most efficient way to avoid wasting bandwidth /sarcasm
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