2003-2004 Lakers again for 2009-2010 season?

2003-2004 Lakers again for 2009-2010 season?

Postby lAKERfaNaticKID on Tue May 26, 2009 12:28 pm

OK how come we cant make some deals and pull a 2003-2004 season when we had prob. the best 4some starters of all time in one season ( kobe,shaq,payton and malone )

during the offseason we have a good chance of getting somone like artest/wallace and bibby/kidd? dont say impossible b/c it is possible...


-kidd could sign for the mininum so can bibby

-artest can also take a paycut to have the opportunity to play for a championship.

-wallace is the only exception, we would have to trade a player for someone like him ( odom? ) rumors is that detroit loves odom, maybe a package including odom and walton ( or farmar ) for wallace and a additional player to match salary..

so in this case we would have
kobe,bynum,paul,ariza and either bibby or kidd starting...very possible if you ask me.
then bring wallace off the bench for bynum and put paul on center while wallace is on the floor.

OR keep odom and have artest sign for mininum.
kobe,paul,artest,bynum, and kidd/bibby . while bringing odom off the bench

wont be like the 03-04 season but still a big upgrade with some vet with experience with still some young legs in the squad.
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Re: 2003-2004 Lakers again for 2009-2010 season?

Postby jBL on Wed May 27, 2009 8:22 am

* I doubt Kidd can be retained at veteran's minimum.
* Artest will not take discount (unless you mean $1-2M) to play with the Lakers.
* Odom is a free agent. Detroit has enough cap space to sign Odom and outbid the Lakers if they want to, but they'd go with Boozer, Millsap before Odom.
* Only if reality was NBA Live.
* We should be worried more about resigning our players.
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Re: 2003-2004 Lakers again for 2009-2010 season?

Postby Damian Necronamous on Wed May 27, 2009 12:37 pm

Here's a crazy idea...

1) Trade Fisher, Sun Yue and Charlotte's 2nd Rder to Orlando for Rafer Alston (won't start with Nelson coming back)
2) Trade Morrison and #29 to Portland for Webster and S. Rodriguez (frees cap room and gets another pick)
3) Trade Walton to Boston for Scalabrine and T. Allen (add a 15mpg player for 2 scrubs, Walton would do well in BOS)
4) Sign-and-trade Odom to Miami for Haslem and a future pick (Miami gets better with Odom next to JO)
5) Re-sign Ariza for 4 years at an average of $6M per season
6) Re-sign Josh Powell to a 2-year deal
7) Sign Jason Collins for the minimum

PG: Rafer Alston...Jordan Farmar...Sergio Rodriguez
SG: Kobe Bryant...Sasha Vujacic...Tony Allen
SF: Trevor Ariza...Martell Webster
PF: Pau Gasol...Josh Powell...Brian Scalabrine
C: Andrew Bynum...Udonis Haslem...Jason Collins

I think that's a much grittier team, with Alston, Webster and Haslem instead of Fisher, Walton and Odom.
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Re: 2003-2004 Lakers again for 2009-2010 season?

Postby lakers_ftw on Fri May 29, 2009 3:16 pm

lol scalabrineeeeee
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Re: 2003-2004 Lakers again for 2009-2010 season?

Postby jBL on Fri May 29, 2009 11:48 pm

Lakers won't trade Fisher. I think we'd keep 2nd round picks and draft two international players. Lakers 1st and Charlotte isn't that far apart but contract money wise is huge different. I think it'd be wise to trade our first round pick. I doubt we can get both Webster and Rodriguez. Walton is not going anywhere unless you take on another long-term bad contract. We can get better package than Haslem and future first round pick for Odom. I think we have team option on Powell for less than a million.

I doubt Lakers make that many moves. It'd be resign Odom, Ariza, and Shannon. Then add one or two veterans. Look to trade Farmar and Morrison.
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Re: 2003-2004 Lakers again for 2009-2010 season?

Postby Damian Necronamous on Sat May 30, 2009 2:18 pm

If we wanted to trade Bynum, dealing him and Farmar to the Bobcats for Felton (re-signed to about 5yrs/$35M) and Raja Bell would be a very solid deal.

I think dealing Morrison, the 29 and cash to the Grizzlies for a "conditional draft choice" would be our best move there.
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Re: 2003-2004 Lakers again for 2009-2010 season?

Postby Damian Necronamous on Sat May 30, 2009 2:35 pm

If we deal Morrison and manage to bring Odom back for a deal with an average of $7M per year, and Ariza is re-signed to a deal with an average of $6M per year, our team would look basically the same.

I really think Shannon will be starting midway through next year, though. He won't cost more than $1.5M to return.

PG: Shannon Brown...Derek Fisher...Jordan Farmar
SG: Kobe Bryant...Sasha Vujacic...Sun Yue
SF: Trevor Ariza...Luke Walton
PF: Pau Gasol...Lamar Odom...Josh Powell
C: Andrew Bynum...D.J. Mbenga

Things become a bit easier over the next two seasons, as $10M in cap space is freed up by the end of Derek and Sasha's deals. If only Luke wasn't signed for four more years....
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Re: 2003-2004 Lakers again for 2009-2010 season?

Postby jBL on Sat May 30, 2009 4:55 pm

Damian Necronamous wrote:If we wanted to trade Bynum, dealing him and Farmar to the Bobcats for Felton (re-signed to about 5yrs/$35M) and Raja Bell would be a very solid deal.

I think dealing Morrison, the 29 and cash to the Grizzlies for a "conditional draft choice" would be our best move there.


We can get so much better asset for Bynum in return and that's joke by far. Lakers won't trade Bynum.
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Re: 2003-2004 Lakers again for 2009-2010 season?

Postby Damian Necronamous on Sat May 30, 2009 6:55 pm

jBL wrote:
Damian Necronamous wrote:If we wanted to trade Bynum, dealing him and Farmar to the Bobcats for Felton (re-signed to about 5yrs/$35M) and Raja Bell would be a very solid deal.

I think dealing Morrison, the 29 and cash to the Grizzlies for a "conditional draft choice" would be our best move there.


We can get so much better asset for Bynum in return and that's joke by far. Lakers won't trade Bynum.


No we couldn't. Raymond Felton is a very solid PG and Raja Bell is an awesome role player. Plus, Bynum has not exactly helped his stock in the playoffs. It's at an all-time low right now.
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Re: 2003-2004 Lakers again for 2009-2010 season?

Postby jBL on Sat May 30, 2009 11:00 pm

Damian Necronamous wrote:
jBL wrote:
Damian Necronamous wrote:If we wanted to trade Bynum, dealing him and Farmar to the Bobcats for Felton (re-signed to about 5yrs/$35M) and Raja Bell would be a very solid deal.

I think dealing Morrison, the 29 and cash to the Grizzlies for a "conditional draft choice" would be our best move there.


We can get so much better asset for Bynum in return and that's joke by far. Lakers won't trade Bynum.


No we couldn't. Raymond Felton is a very solid PG and Raja Bell is an awesome role player. Plus, Bynum has not exactly helped his stock in the playoffs. It's at an all-time low right now.


I remember reading a trade suggestion for Bynum on RealGM few days ago. Many young teams are high on Bynum. Imagine tandems like Granger+Bynum or Durant+Bynum. As bad is Bynum at this point, he is still recovering from his injury. He was solid when he was healthy. It is not easy to find a two way traditional center nowdays that is also very young with great future ahead of him.

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=907826

And Felton isn't exactly PJ guy either.
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Re: 2003-2004 Lakers again for 2009-2010 season?

Postby Kobe Bryant 8 on Sun May 31, 2009 10:56 pm

Bynum for Felton and Raja Bell is one of the more horrible proposals I've ever heard.

He's rusty from an injury. He's 21. He was OWNING before he went down.
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Re: 2003-2004 Lakers again for 2009-2010 season?

Postby Mr. Chicken on Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:49 pm

Damian Necronamous wrote:If we wanted to trade Bynum, dealing him and Farmar to the Bobcats for Felton (re-signed to about 5yrs/$35M) and Raja Bell would be a very solid deal.

I think dealing Morrison, the 29 and cash to the Grizzlies for a "conditional draft choice" would be our best move there.


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Re: 2003-2004 Lakers again for 2009-2010 season?

Postby crazylakerfanforlife on Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:10 am

sasha, morrison for nocioni. works under the cap. sacremento saves millions with this trade to save their franchinse. then walton for desanga diop. we get a solid pg in the 1st round like darren collison then we get a sleeper 2 guard in the second like dionte christmas.

fish/farmar/ 1st round(darren collison)
kobe/brown/2nd round(dionte christmas)
ariza/nocioni/yue
pau/odom/powell
bynum/diop/mbenga

we win!
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Re: 2003-2004 Lakers again for 2009-2010 season?

Postby bystander on Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:24 am

Nocioni would be huge for this team.

He was used to win before playing for the Bulls, he is tought, he can be dirty if he has to, he makes 3s and he can defend, can play 2-3-4 ... and mostly he is an argentinian. Those dudes are very competitive.
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Re: 2003-2004 Lakers again for 2009-2010 season?

Postby crazylakerfanforlife on Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:32 am

we need hard rugged guys like diop and nocioni to build our legacy and become a dynasty. luke and sasha were only good in their contract years. they both got paid and its evident that neither one is going to help the team. i love lukes offensive skills and his good court vision and bball iq, but he is really bad defensivly. nocioni is a tough player he will not back down from anyone. diop has finals experience and two years ago was considered one of the best center defender's in the league. if mitch can get his wand working again i would hope he would consider these two guys.
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Re: 2003-2004 Lakers again for 2009-2010 season?

Postby Larry14r on Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:47 pm

crazylakerfanforlife wrote:we need hard rugged guys like diop and nocioni to build our legacy and become a dynasty. luke and sasha were only good in their contract years. they both got paid and its evident that neither one is going to help the team. i love lukes offensive skills and his good court vision and bball iq, but he is really bad defensivly. nocioni is a tough player he will not back down from anyone. diop has finals experience and two years ago was considered one of the best center defender's in the league. if mitch can get his wand working again i would hope he would consider these two guys.


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Re: 2003-2004 Lakers again for 2009-2010 season?

Postby lkrfn85 on Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:22 pm

Why mess up a championship team to model it after a team that lost in the finals? I'm all for cheap vets, but dont give up core guys like Odom to get em. Love sheed, but a year of him at his age is not worth a 30 year old odom.
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Re: 2003-2004 Lakers again for 2009-2010 season?

Postby Kobe Bryant 8 on Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:47 pm

All we need to do is re-sign Lamar and Ariza. That's it. Brown would be NICE to have but he's not essential. Remember, we won with Bynum SUCKING.
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Re: 2003-2004 Lakers again for 2009-2010 season?

Postby steveforprez02 on Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:37 pm

Fisher will remain with a LA team. Going back to Fisher's days with the Utah Jazz, the Jazz knew Fisher wanted to be with his daughter (in LA) so they let him go- just so he could be with his daughter. Fisher will finish his career with Lakers (or Clippers).

Just keep Gasol and Kobe together and the team will do just fine- with or without Phil Jackson.
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