Groundless Trade & free agent signing Idea Thread

Postby abeer3 on Sat Jun 11, 2005 2:25 pm

commentary:

marion for odom AND butler? nay. i wouldn't even do odom for marion straight up, but i like odom.

odom for kmart? mmmm, probably not. odom for nene and something else? i'd consider it.



love danny's proposal #2:

caron/10th pick/mihm/future first

for

4th pick/magloire

i may even sweeten the deal further if new orleans was actually interested.

bugs get a young center (downgrade, but he's got potential and a good contract), a starting sf (again solid player with room to grow), a lotto pick and a future first. still not sure they do it, but it would be nice...

i'll take a stab:

-do the bender deal (slava/george/2nd for bender/17)
-caron/10/vlade's buyout/chucky for boozer/borchardt/giricek(basically remove odom and the 6th pick from danny's proposal and replace with chucky and giricek--lakers may need to throw in a filler like cook)
-draft jack at 17
-MLE to antonio daniels
-maxiell with the second rounder

daniels/jack/sasha
kobe/giricek
odom/bender/jj
boozer/maxiell/grant
mihm/borchardt/pick vlade back up

i think that's a playoff team. young, too.
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Postby Danny Ainge on Sat Jun 11, 2005 2:33 pm

abeer3 wrote:commentary:

marion for odom AND butler? nay. i wouldn't even do odom for marion straight up, but i like odom.

odom for kmart? mmmm, probably not. odom for nene and something else? i'd consider it.



love danny's proposal #2:

caron/10th pick/mihm/future first

for

4th pick/magloire

i may even sweeten the deal further if new orleans was actually interested.

bugs get a young center (downgrade, but he's got potential and a good contract), a starting sf (again solid player with room to grow), a lotto pick and a future first. still not sure they do it, but it would be nice...

i'll take a stab:

-do the bender deal (slava/george/2nd for bender/17)
-caron/10/vlade's buyout/chucky for boozer/borchardt/giricek(basically remove odom and the 6th pick from danny's proposal and replace with chucky and giricek--lakers may need to throw in a filler like cook)
-draft jack at 17
-MLE to antonio daniels
-maxiell with the second rounder

daniels/jack/sasha
kobe/giricek
odom/bender/jj
boozer/maxiell/grant
mihm/borchardt/pick vlade back up

i think that's a playoff team. young, too.
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found this at realgm n it look pretty decent

Postby PurpleNGold1 on Sat Jun 11, 2005 7:06 pm

Would you trade the #10 pick and Butler to Toronto for #16,#7,next year Denver 1st rounder?(And possibly Rafer Alston)///A deal that I'd do would be something like this:

Caron Butler
Chucky Atkins
10th Pick

for

Rafer Alston
Rafael Araujo
7th Pick
16th Pick
2006 Denver First Round Pick

With the 7th Pick, I'd draft Raymond Felton. A Felton-Alston combination for the next three seasons wouldn't be too bad. With the 16th Pick, I'd choose Ike Diogu. Rafael Araujo would make for a decent backup PF/C with some potential. Overall, I don't think this lineup is too bad:

PG: Rafer Alston/Raymond Felton
SG: Kobe Bryant/Sasha Vujacic
SF: Lamar Odom/Jumaine Jones
PF: MLE Signee/Ike Diogu/Brian Grant
C: Chris Mihm/Vlade Divac/Rafael Araujo
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Postby PurpleNGold1 on Sat Jun 11, 2005 7:07 pm

i found this at realgm not what im suggestin^^
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Postby PurpleNGold1 on Sat Jun 11, 2005 7:10 pm

another trade idea i saw///// knicks get


Caron Butler
Future 1st rounder (06)


Lakers get

Michael Sweetney
Lotto 8th pick




Why for the Lakers ?


They need to rebuild at three postitions, getting the 8th pick and having the 10th pick in the lottery will have have them fill all 3 holes . Draft Frye at 8th Felton at 10th and Sweetney as theire future Power Forward.

Lakers lineup

Felton
Bryant
Odom
Sweetney
Frye



The knicks


Caron Butler..... a young player who has been consistently been compared to Paul Pierce, with more athletism. He has quick hands and loves to drive in through the hole Rebounds well and has a good post game... has the talent and the desire to be a star in the league... .
As for Sweetney, he really didnt do much last year. at the 8th spot the knicks wont find a small forward like Butler .

-Tim Thomas and Anfernee Hardaway Will be up for grabs during the feb Deadline, and this gives us alot help for a low post player .

knicks lineup for now

S.Marbury
J.Crawford
C.Butler
M.Rose
K.Thomas
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Postby Guest on Sat Jun 11, 2005 7:19 pm

LAL gets:

Kidd
Kristic
Collins
#15



NJ gets:

Odom
Atkins
Mihm
Cook
#10
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Postby cre8tor on Sat Jun 11, 2005 9:36 pm

Vette wrote:LAL gets:

Kidd
Kristic
Collins
#15



NJ gets:

Odom
Atkins
Mihm
Cook
#10



Groundless is right.

If we wanted to cap ourselves to death with a declining player with a bloated contract, we would've kept Shaq.
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Postby abeer3 on Sun Jun 12, 2005 7:44 am

Vette wrote:LAL gets:

Kidd
Kristic
Collins
#15



NJ gets:

Odom
Atkins
Mihm
Cook
#10


i think the lakers kind of get ripped here. no...i'm sure they do.
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Postby KB24 on Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:29 am

Emplay found this one
LA trades:
Caron, Mihm, Sucky AND 10th

NO trades:
Magloire, West AND 4th.

Could mean
Paul
Kobe
Jones
Odom
Magloire.
Now thats a championship team to grow.
We could add another bigmen with expiring K´s, Indy trade (17th pick) and MLE. That would be a great trade IMHO.
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Postby abeer3 on Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:06 am

KB8@CL wrote:Emplay found this one
LA trades:
Caron, Mihm, Sucky AND 10th

NO trades:
Magloire, West AND 4th.

Could mean
Paul
Kobe
Jones
Odom
Magloire.
Now thats a championship team to grow.
We could add another bigmen with expiring K´s, Indy trade (17th pick) and MLE. That would be a great trade IMHO.


i would do that deal so fast the bugs' gm's head would spin. which is what makes me think it can't happen. it's a great deal for the lakers, but only a decent deal for the hornets. if it was possible to remove chucky and west from the deal (if that doesn't totally screw up the numbers), then i think new orleans is more likely to do it. unless they really want chucky for some reason. if the lakers threw in something else of value, i could see it, i suppose.

i just think magloire and the 4 is worth more than caron, mihm, and the 10. put it this way, i don't think the hornets would trade magloire for caron/mihm, and they certainly wouldn't trade 4 for 10. if the lakers threw in the 17, maybe....
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Postby Guest on Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:49 am

PIERCE AND BANKS TO LAL!!!

Lal gets:

Pierce
Banks
#18


Boston gets:

Odom
Medvedenko
Cook
Sasha
#37
#39


would u do the trade? who would you pick with the 10 and 18 picks?
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Postby abeer3 on Sun Jun 12, 2005 11:06 am

Vette wrote:PIERCE AND BANKS TO LAL!!!

Lal gets:

Pierce
Banks
#18


Boston gets:

Odom
Medvedenko
Cook
Sasha
#37
#39


would u do the trade? who would you pick with the 10 and 18 picks?


i'm one of those who thinks that if odom is going out, an impact big better be coming back.
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Postby Danny Ainge on Sun Jun 12, 2005 12:00 pm

abeer3 wrote:
Vette wrote:PIERCE AND BANKS TO LAL!!!

Lal gets:

Pierce
Banks
#18


Boston gets:

Odom
Medvedenko
Cook
Sasha
#37
#39


would u do the trade? who would you pick with the 10 and 18 picks?


i'm one of those who thinks that if odom is going out, an impact big better be coming back.

Amen to that, bring on K-Mart
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Postby ckermott on Sun Jun 12, 2005 12:01 pm

Vette wrote:PIERCE AND BANKS TO LAL!!!

Lal gets:

Pierce
Banks
#18


Boston gets:

Odom
Medvedenko
Cook
Sasha
#37
#39


would u do the trade? who would you pick with the 10 and 18 picks?


Yes, I would do that in a heart beat. Perhaps we could trade Pierce for a good PF or three good benchers.
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Postby KB24 on Sun Jun 12, 2005 1:44 pm

abeer3 wrote:
Vette wrote:PIERCE AND BANKS TO LAL!!!

Lal gets:

Pierce
Banks
#18


Boston gets:

Odom
Medvedenko
Cook
Sasha
#37
#39


would u do the trade? who would you pick with the 10 and 18 picks?


i'm one of those who thinks that if odom is going out, an impact big better be coming back.
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This people somehow ONLY want to get rid of Odom for a guard :bang: Why is that so difficult to understand that we would be killed on the boards with out Odom (and no replacement) What should we do with Butler :man7:
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Postby Danny Ainge on Sun Jun 12, 2005 1:52 pm

Agreed, Butler and Pierce play the same position. Bad trade SF.
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Postby PurpleNGold1 on Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:08 pm

NO WOULDNT TRADE THERE FUTURE IN WEST HES GOING TO BE PJ BROWS REPLACEMENT
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Postby Guest on Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:11 pm

Danny Ainge wrote:Agreed, Butler and Pierce play the same position. Bad trade SF.


go with Butler off the bench, put Pierce in the starting spot
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Postby Danny Ainge on Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:22 pm

Vette wrote:
Danny Ainge wrote:Agreed, Butler and Pierce play the same position. Bad trade SF.


go with Butler off the bench, put Pierce in the starting spot

No, thats a flat our horrible idea, not enough PT for Caron. We'd have to trade Caron to make this work. The bottom line is, if we trade Odom, we HAVE to get an impact big man. The last thing we need to do is trade for a SF. PG or PF thats it.
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Postby Guest on Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:22 pm

ckermott wrote:
Vette wrote:PIERCE AND BANKS TO LAL!!!

Lal gets:

Pierce
Banks
#18


Boston gets:

Odom
Medvedenko
Cook
Sasha
#37
#39


would u do the trade? who would you pick with the 10 and 18 picks?


Yes, I would do that in a heart beat. Perhaps we could trade Pierce for a good PF or three good benchers.


If you're gonna just trade Pierce for a PF once he comes here, why not JUST trade Odom for the PF in the 1st place?
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Postby Guest on Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:24 pm

And why do you guys wanna keep picking up swingmen? The Lakers are LOADED at the 2-3 spots!
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TO ANY ONE OUT THEIR!!!

Postby LOUIE04 on Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:23 pm

WHAT IS AN MLE!!?? :man3:
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Re: TO ANY ONE OUT THEIR!!!

Postby PurpleNGold1 on Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:30 pm

LOUIE04 wrote:WHAT IS AN MLE!!?? :man3:
mid level exception(correct me if im wrong)
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Re: TO ANY ONE OUT THEIR!!!

Postby Danny Ainge on Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:22 am

PurpleNGold1 wrote:
LOUIE04 wrote:WHAT IS AN MLE!!?? :man3:
mid level exception(correct me if im wrong)

Your right :man1:
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Postby strikemode14 on Mon Jun 13, 2005 9:15 am

How about this trade

Cleveland trades

Gooden and Snow

for Caron and expiring contracts


With this trade that would help us get a vet PG and get a PF. Then we can use the draft to get a Center.


Lineup

Snow
Kobe
Odom
Gooden
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