Groundless Trade & free agent signing Idea Thread

sirronstuff wrote:I though Dalembert was Restricted FA. I can't think of anything we have that Philly would want though. If they lose him, that's a pretty major hole.

Gooden still seeks stability

By Marcus Thompson II

CONTRA COSTA TIMES

Drew Gooden was hanging out in Orlando, Fla., where he lives, when he got a call on his cell phone.

He didn't recognize the number but noticed it had a 216 area code, which is from Cleveland, where he plays. He couldn't help the first thought that came to his head.

"I hope I'm not getting traded," Gooden said to himself before answering the phone.

"Ask just about any player at this time of year," said Gooden, an El Cerrito High School product and Cleveland Cavaliers forward. "If they get a call from the area code of the team they play for, they're going to wonder the same thing at least for a half a second. It's happened to me every summer. I'm ready."

The call turned out to be new Cavaliers general manager Danny Ferry, who was making introductory calls to his players. But Gooden is so used to shake-up, so conditioned to instability, that he's prepared for anything.

He is entering his fourth NBA season since leaving Kansas a year early. Cleveland is his third team. Recently hired Mike Brown is his eighth head coach. Gooden is entering the last year of his rookie-scale contract. He is up for a contract extension but figures it's a long shot.

His averages of 14.4 points and 9.2 rebounds from last year, coupled with his affordable $4.066 million salary for the 2005-06 season, make him an attractive trade commodity. So Gooden easily could be playing for his fourth team by the time the season begins.

Even if he stays with Cleveland for the final year of his deal, he'll be a restricted free agent at season's end and possibly on his way to a new team for 2006-07, though the Cavaliers could match any offer sheet he signs.

"It's all about making numbers match," Gooden said. "I'm still on a rookie contract, so I'm expendable. I've been a victim of that.

"Not knowing (your future) is always frustrating, but I always have been in this position since I've been in the NBA."

Gooden said his focus is on the second annual Drew Gooden Basketball Camps, which, according to drewgooden.net, are being held at Merritt College from July 11-15 and in the Cleveland area near the end of July. It's probably the most stable thing in his career.

Gooden said he wants to stay with the Cavaliers and be a key part of the franchise's expected rise to contender status under LeBron James. But the Cavaliers have been getting a face lift since Dan Gilbert bought the franchise earlier this year.

General manager Jim Paxson and coach Paul Silas have been shown the door. Point guard Jeff McGinnis and center Zydrunas Ilgauskas have not been offered contract extensions.

Somehow, Gooden doesn't feel too secure, even though he tied James with a team-high 80 starts and led all starters with 49.2 percent shooting from the field.

He said he understands the logic behind his nomadic career and takes it as a compliment that he's desirable. He has developed a reputation as workhorse in the paint with the versatility to score inside or outside.

Still, he wonders when he will be able to call one place home. He wonders when a team is going to appreciate his value. He wonders when he can answer his phone with ease, no matter what area code shows up on his cell.

"Everybody knows Drew Gooden is a beast on the block and he's going to get you a double-double," Gooden said. "I don't know when I'm going to get that respect. I don't know when a team is going to say, 'We need this cat and we need to put some players around him.' I would like to be a part of something like that."

k0pr0phage wrote:Here's an article about Drew Gooden not wanting to be traded but also realizing that it might happen and also wanting bigger money. I'd absolutely love if the Lakers could get him at his current salary and get him extended for a few years.

abeer3 wrote:just to add some spice to the groundless trade thread: does anyone know all the ins and outs of trade exceptions. i think the lakers have three, all worth 1.5-2 million (one expires in a few days, one in august, and one in december). can you use more than one at a time? there could be some interesting possibilities when exceptions get added in, along with the new 25% rule instead of 15% in margin for error when salary matching.

what i'm trying to say is that to the right team, vlade and the trade exceptions could look very attractive. i'll try to come up with some groundless trade rumor that utilizes this...

k0pr0phage wrote:

abeer3 wrote:just to add some spice to the groundless trade thread: does anyone know all the ins and outs of trade exceptions. i think the lakers have three, all worth 1.5-2 million (one expires in a few days, one in august, and one in december). can you use more than one at a time? there could be some interesting possibilities when exceptions get added in, along with the new 25% rule instead of 15% in margin for error when salary matching.

what i'm trying to say is that to the right team, vlade and the trade exceptions could look very attractive. i'll try to come up with some groundless trade rumor that utilizes this...

The Lakers have the MLE (which is now 5.1M I think), the LLE (which is like 1.6M) which cannot be used in consecutive years...we still have ours..., and the Vet Minimum (1M?). We've offered the MLE to Antonio Daniels, I believe, and are waiting to hear from him.

epak wrote:I heard Mitched had something big coming around. So I did the work for him...

http://realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=2469529


PG: AD (FA signing)
SG: Kobe
SF: Artest
PF: KG
C: Mihm

D Nice wrote:Lakers Offseason Plan

Lakers Trade the Wizards: Caron Butler and Chucky Atkins for Kwame Brown

Lakers Trade the Raptors: Brian Grant, Sasha Vujacic, and Miami’s 2006 1st Round Pick for Jalen Rose

- Gets rid of a disgruntled Jalen and Gives the Lakers a bench scorer. Toronto gets 2 Future prospects to go along with Grant in Sasha and the future 1st round pick.

Lakers Trade the Blazers: Vlade Divac’s Contract, Devean George, Slava Medvedenko, and a Future 2nd round pick for Theo Ratliff and Ruben Patterson

- Allows the Blazers to be a major free agent player in 06 and/or 07, and saves them a bunch in Luxury Tax penalties, especially if they waive Derek Anderson

Sign Antonio Daniels to the full MLE, and Sign Derek Anderson to the LLE, if waived…

Sign Andrew Bynum, Ronny Turiaf, Smush Parker, and Von Wafer to rookie contracts

Bring Vlade back in the organization as a personnel person (International scout maybe?)

2006 Lineup

PG: Antonio Daniels/Derek Anderson/Smush Parker
SG: Kobe Bryant/Jalen Rose/Jumaine Jones/Von Wafer
SF: Lamar Odom/Jalen Rose/Ruben Patterson
PF: Kwame Brown/Ronny Turiaf/Brian Cook
C: Chris Mihm/Theo Ratliff/Andrew Bynum

they_perch wrote:well how about we go after terry if we cant sign a free agent.

lakers trade vlade and miamis first round pick to dallas
lakers recieve, jason terry

we get a third team involved

pheonix recieves cook, jj, second round pick.
pheonix trades steven hunter (maybe barbosa

dallas recieves hunter, vlade (cap relief), and first pick from lakers(via miami)


lakers get a starting point guard. nuff said.

pheonix gets something in return for steven hunter, they acquire two three point shooters in cook and jj, and jj actually brings some defense and depth to a team which lacks all of the above. cook can help spread the floor as well off the bench.

dallas recieves a backup bigman in hunter, who they could really use. they get cap relief from vlade, and then they get a first round pick. yes they lose terry, but maybe they feel devin harris is startable now. they can sign a free agent pg in the offseason because they can actually offer a long deal. this deal would be much easier to pull off if we had atkins as well. maybe we could get pheonix to throw in barbosa as well for dallas? w/ nve being waived i see him going to dallas or miami, and if he goes to dallas, they could start nve, have harris come off the bench for good minutes, and not miss terry at all.

i dont care what it takes, terry makes us a contender, throw 2 first picks at them.

we sign lue w/ part of the mle, pick up a veteran bigman to backup mihm. this is our lineup.

mihm/grant/bynum
kwame/slava
lamar/luke/profit
kobe/wafer
terry/lue/sasha

thats a contender imo.