Groundless Trade & free agent signing Idea Thread

Postby cobra on Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:16 pm

Radmanovic for Jaric
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Postby Jajwa on Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:20 pm

Bingo. Reasonable good trade.

I'd actually go for Mike James this off-season and offer Cook+2nd.

They really wanted him gone so let's see if it does the deal.

The Lakers really don't have huge needs that people keep claiming they do.
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Postby kobe626581 on Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:40 am

How about we sign and trade Smush Parker for Steve Blake.
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Postby escobar8 on Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:10 am

why would den do that...???
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Postby kobe626581 on Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:41 pm

My bad they wouldn't. According to hoopshype George Karl wants him back next year.

Coach George Karl is hopeful the Nuggets will re-sign point Steve Blake when he becomes a free agent in the summer. "I don't think there's any question we're very interested in putting him on our team next year," Karl said. "He's been impressive, a lot better than I thought." Blake has started 27 of 36 games since being acquired Jan. 11. He's making $1.08 million but is in line to get a $250,000 bonus for averaging 26 minutes or more. "All I know is right now, I really like it here," Blake said. "Hopefully, they like me enough to do what it takes to bring me back." Rocky Mountain News
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Postby d.carter4kobe on Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:29 am

Lamar/Kwame/Cook/Farmar/Sasha and 08 1st plus 3mill for KG/Jaric/James/

we look like

Drew,?????(Brown),Mimh
Kg,Roony,???(Brown)
Luke,Vlad,???(Brewer),Jones
Kobe,Evans,Jaric
James,Smush,Williams

Use our 2 2nds and mid 1st to move up a couple spots to get a wing defender (Brewer)and and use part of the MLE on a big(Pj Brown) and a vet wing defender(E.Jones)
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Postby bb7793 on Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:47 pm

Kevin Garnett and Mike James for Lamar Odom, Kwame Brown, Brian Cook, Vladimir Radmanovic, and a 2008 unprotected first round draft pick.


PG- James/Farmar/draft or free agent
Sg- Kobe/Evans/Sasha/
SF- Luke/Draft pick
PF-KG/Turiaf/draft pick
C-Bynum/Mihm/Free agent

With this move it frees up quite a few roster spots to maybe bring in some young talent/free agents plus we have 3 picks in the draft

If we were to draft perhaps a nick Young/Thaddeus Young/Mcroberts or jason smith in the first round and then a combo of any of these guys with our 2nd rounders Byars/Gasol/Stuckey/Sean Williams
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Postby lakerfan2 on Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:34 pm

kwame and cook for ODEN. the man-child.
drop Smush, the lazy.
and draft Collison from UCLA.

i don't know if that's possible, but it sure would be nice.
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Postby Kobe Bryant 8 on Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:51 am

lakerfan2 wrote:kwame and cook for ODEN. the man-child.
drop Smush, the lazy.
and draft Collison from UCLA.

i don't know if that's possible, but it sure would be nice.


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Postby Klewfish on Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:47 pm

Well right now the Lakers are stuck between two different paths.

A. Building a championship team for now

B. Building a young team for the future


Just for poops and giggles, this would be my approach to option B.

Lakers Give: Kobe Bryant, 2007 1st
Lakers Get: Andre Iguodala, Josh Smith, 2007 1st

Hawks Give: Josh Smith
Hawks Get: Samuel Dalembert, 2007 1st (via Lakers)

76ers Give: Andre Iguodala, Samuel Dalembert, 2007 first
76ers Get: Kobe Bryant


then trade

Lakers Give: Lamar Odom, Vladamir Radmanovic, Smush Parker or Farmar, 2nd round pick 2008
Lakers Get: Jason Kidd, 2007 1st

Smush/Farmar
Iguodala/Evans/Sasha
JSmoove/Luke
Okafor/Turiaf/Cook
Bynum/Kwame/Mihm

we have the Sixers, first round pick. I'd say depending on what pick it is (probably somewhere in the 6-10 range), we look at Corey Brewer, or Mike Conley Jr.

we have the Nets first round pick, we look at Mike Conley Jr, Rudy Fernandez, or Derrick Byars

JKidd/Conley Jr/Farmar
Iguodala/Evans/Sasha
JSmoove/Luke/Brewer
Okafor/Turiaf/Cook
Bynum/Kwame/Mihm

Now that would be a heck of a lineup for the future. However I would rather send Kobe to a contender.
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Postby wavy on Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:01 am

Klewfish wrote:Well right now the Lakers are stuck between two different paths.

A. Building a championship team for now

B. Building a young team for the future


Just for poops and giggles, this would be my approach to option B.

Lakers Give: Kobe Bryant, 2007 1st
Lakers Get: Andre Iguodala, Josh Smith, 2007 1st

Hawks Give: Josh Smith
Hawks Get: Samuel Dalembert, 2007 1st (via Lakers)

76ers Give: Andre Iguodala, Samuel Dalembert, 2007 first
76ers Get: Kobe Bryant


then trade

Lakers Give: Lamar Odom, Vladamir Radmanovic, Smush Parker or Farmar, 2nd round pick 2008
Lakers Get: Jason Kidd, 2007 1st

Smush/Farmar
Iguodala/Evans/Sasha
JSmoove/Luke
Okafor/Turiaf/Cook
Bynum/Kwame/Mihm

we have the Sixers, first round pick. I'd say depending on what pick it is (probably somewhere in the 6-10 range), we look at Corey Brewer, or Mike Conley Jr.

we have the Nets first round pick, we look at Mike Conley Jr, Rudy Fernandez, or Derrick Byars

JKidd/Conley Jr/Farmar
Iguodala/Evans/Sasha
JSmoove/Luke/Brewer
Okafor/Turiaf/Cook
Bynum/Kwame/Mihm

Now that would be a heck of a lineup for the future. However I would rather send Kobe to a contender.


i don't like the deal but anyways, how did you get okafor?
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Postby Klewfish on Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:34 pm

wavy wrote:
Klewfish wrote:Well right now the Lakers are stuck between two different paths.

A. Building a championship team for now

B. Building a young team for the future


Just for poops and giggles, this would be my approach to option B.

Lakers Give: Kobe Bryant, 2007 1st
Lakers Get: Andre Iguodala, Josh Smith, 2007 1st

Hawks Give: Josh Smith
Hawks Get: Samuel Dalembert, 2007 1st (via Lakers)

76ers Give: Andre Iguodala, Samuel Dalembert, 2007 first
76ers Get: Kobe Bryant


then trade

Lakers Give: Lamar Odom
Lakers Get: Okafor

Smush/Farmar
Iguodala/Evans/Sasha
JSmoove/Luke
Okafor/Turiaf/Cook
Bynum/Kwame/Mihm

we have the Sixers, first round pick. I'd say depending on what pick it is (probably somewhere in the 6-10 range), we look at Corey Brewer, or Mike Conley Jr.


Smush/Farmar
Iguodala/Evans/Sasha
JSmoove/Luke/Brewer
Okafor/Turiaf/Cook
Bynum/Kwame/Mihm

Now that would be a heck of a lineup for the future. However I would rather send Kobe to a contender.


i don't like the deal but anyways, how did you get okafor?


Ohh I had a Lamar for Okafor swap, and then changed it. and forgot to change it in the roster.
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Postby Klewfish on Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:52 pm

Now for option A,

Trade Lamar Odom for Ron Artest/Quincy Douby

Trade Andrew Bynum, Brian Cook , VladRad for KG

Smush/Kobe/Artest/KG/Kwame.
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Postby kobe626581 on Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:55 am

Klewfish wrote:Now for option A,

Trade Lamar Odom for Ron Artest/Quincy Douby

Trade Andrew Bynum, Brian Cook , VladRad for KG

Smush/Kobe/Artest/KG/Kwame.

That is a sweet line-up but the only problem is Smush. We all know Smush is out of here after the season and why would you trade Bynum, Cook, Vlad Rad for KG when you can get KG via free agency (hoping he opts out).
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Postby Klewfish on Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:31 pm

kobe626581 wrote:
Klewfish wrote:Now for option A,

Trade Lamar Odom for Ron Artest/Quincy Douby

Trade Andrew Bynum, Brian Cook , VladRad for KG

Smush/Kobe/Artest/KG/Kwame.

That is a sweet line-up but the only problem is Smush. We all know Smush is out of here after the season and why would you trade Bynum, Cook, Vlad Rad for KG when you can get KG via free agency (hoping he opts out).


KG can only opt out after next season. I guess if we could do that trade for someone like Jermaine O'Neal instead. Then if KG wanted to come here after next season when he can opt out, and sign for extremely cheap. What a dream...
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Postby GCMD on Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:50 am

LO/Mihm/McKie + buyout cash/ 2007 1st rnd pick + LA's 2007 2nd rnd pick

for

JO/Marquis Daniels
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Postby Klewfish on Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:19 am

GameCockMD wrote:LO/Mihm/McKie + buyout cash/ 2007 1st rnd pick + LA's 2007 2nd rnd pick

for

JO/Marquis Daniels


I guess I'd consider it. If we could keep our first round pick, and give them VladRad instead, i'd be even more inclined to do it.
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Postby Kobe Bryant 8 on Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:20 am

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Postby Geno on Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:58 pm

Wow. I knew KG was really upset that he was losing all these years, but I didn't know he was hurting this bad.
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Postby wavy on Wed Apr 11, 2007 3:56 am

Kobe Bryant 8 wrote:http://youtube.com/watch?v=iXjJKV-Ra7I


wow, i really feel pitty for KG. after seeing this i would be ok if the lakers ghave up odom, byn um and anybody ellse on our team for KG. he's a greqat player he doesen't deserve what is happening to him. he's making me cry aswell.
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Postby ladam24 on Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:46 am

Klewfish wrote:Well right now the Lakers are stuck between two different paths.

A. Building a championship team for now

B. Building a young team for the future


Just for poops and giggles, this would be my approach to option B.

Lakers Give: Kobe Bryant, 2007 1st
Lakers Get: Andre Iguodala, Josh Smith, 2007 1st

Hawks Give: Josh Smith
Hawks Get: Samuel Dalembert, 2007 1st (via Lakers)

76ers Give: Andre Iguodala, Samuel Dalembert, 2007 first
76ers Get: Kobe Bryant


then trade

Lakers Give: Lamar Odom, Vladamir Radmanovic, Smush Parker or Farmar, 2nd round pick 2008
Lakers Get: Jason Kidd, 2007 1st

Smush/Farmar
Iguodala/Evans/Sasha
JSmoove/Luke
Okafor/Turiaf/Cook
Bynum/Kwame/Mihm

we have the Sixers, first round pick. I'd say depending on what pick it is (probably somewhere in the 6-10 range), we look at Corey Brewer, or Mike Conley Jr.

we have the Nets first round pick, we look at Mike Conley Jr, Rudy Fernandez, or Derrick Byars

JKidd/Conley Jr/Farmar
Iguodala/Evans/Sasha
JSmoove/Luke/Brewer
Okafor/Turiaf/Cook
Bynum/Kwame/Mihm

Now that would be a heck of a lineup for the future. However I would rather send Kobe to a contender.


The only people I'd trade Kobe for would be a package involving either Dwight Howard, LeBron James, Chris Bosh. That's all. No way in hell we give him up for AI and Josh Smith.
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Postby GCMD on Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:13 am

OT...

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Postby Klewfish on Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:14 pm

ladam24 wrote:
The only people I'd trade Kobe for would be a package involving either Dwight Howard, LeBron James, Chris Bosh. That's all. No way in hell we give him up for AI and Josh Smith.


Well I would consider trading him for AI2/JSmoove for a couple simple reasons.

1. They both play defense. Smith is a DPOY candidate, and AI is a great man-to-man defender and plays the passing lanes well

2. They are young. Inexperience comes with that, but I'd be willing to cope.

3. AI2 is putting up roughtly 19/6/7 since the AI departure. He is ready to take over a team.

I'd still have to think about it, I love Kobe and love watching Kobe. But these are my two favorite young guys in the league. Trading Lamar for a defensive big. And having a starting lineup of Farmar/Iggy/JSmoove/Okafor (as in my proposed trade)/Bynum in a couple years would be championship material.
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Postby Crispy on Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:36 pm

Bucks Trade: Bobby Simmons, Brian Skinner, 1st rd pick
Lakers Trade: Lamar Odom, Smush Parker, Brian Cook, 1st rd pick

Lakers sign Charlie Bell with MLE.

Lakers take Al Horford with 1st rd pick.
Lakers take Daequan Cook with 2nd rd pick.
Lakers take Glen Davis with 2nd rd pick.

Bucks take Tiago Splitter with 1st rd pick.
Bucks take Ali Traore with 2nd rd pick.

LAKERS LINEUP:
PG - Farmar/Bell/Vujaic
SG - Bryant/Evans/Cook
SF - Walton/Simmons/Radmanovic
PF - Turiaf/Horford/Davis
C - Bynum/Brown/Skinner

BUCKS STARTING LINEUP:
PG - Williams
SG - Redd
SF - Odom
PF - Villanueva
C - Bogut

Now the Lakers are a defensive GURU. Simmons, Horford, Turiaf, Davis, Brown, Skinner, Evans, Bell, Bryant...WOW!!! You may ask why I went with that starting lineup. This is the lineup that knows the system best, and ultimately will win more games. Unfortunately, the Lakers still lack a true second option, but most championship have good role players, not just 2 stars. And who knows? Maybe Bynum can live up to the expectations and be a 18-20 ppg scorer. Now I don't think this is a team that wins it all in 08, but will DEFINITELY be a contendor in 09.
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Postby Coppertop on Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:53 pm

We got the 19th Pick, huh?

Good, now here's what we do.

We call up Larry Bird/Donnie Walsh and say, hey, Jermaine O'Neal wants out, and we'll take him off your hands. There may be other teams with better offers, but if they are trying to clear cap space and rebuild, here's what we offer.

J O'Neal + Orien Greene (filler) to the Lakers
K Brown + VladRad + Mo (or Sasha) + Farmar + #19 (if necessary)

Why for the Pacers? They get a defensive minded big man to replace JO. Obviously he's not as good, but he's half the price and his contract is up. Kwame, Mo/Sasha, and Farmar all have expiring contracts (if the Pacers desire) following next season. Vlad Rad is included for salary purposes and they get a good 1st round pick

Why for the Lakers? Ummm...cuz they want to win now. If the Lakers were to pull off this trade, they could also do the following (theoretically).

1) Resign Luke for fair market value (3.5-4.5 mil?)
2) Use the MLE on a starting point guard
3*) Sign or don't sign Smush as the third guard off the bench - if he's gonna play 10-15 minutes a game, I wouldn't mind, but I'm sure a lot of you would. Take him or leave him, either way.
4) Sign or don't sign Chris Mihm. I would sign him as he can probably be had for cheap. We have his bird rights, and few teams would take a long term chance given his injury.

So...that gives us a starting lineup of:

A) MLE PG/Kobe/Lamar/JO/Bynum
B) MLE PG/Kobe/Luke/Lamar/JO

Bench: Smush, Sasha/Mo, Cook, Turiaf, Walton/Bynum, Shammond, Mihm

Position-wise
PG: MLE PG, Smush, Shammond
SG: Kobe, Mo/Sasha
SF: Odom, Walton, Cook
PF: JO, Cook, Turiaf
C: Bynum, JO, Mihm, Turiaf (wow, nice group)

Maybe we need to add another swingman. But that's probably the best frontcourt in the league, with Kobe at SG and hopefully a solid upgrade at point guard.

*If you don't like Smush as third guard, fine, but don't blow the rest of the idea up over that. Got it? Nobody bother me about the Smush thing! I'm sensitive, okay?!?!?
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