Groundless Trade & free agent signing Idea Thread

Postby The Greatest on Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:48 pm

I wonder and I don't know how the positioning would work but heres a crazy trade scenario you trade kwame farmar 1st rounder and vlad for JO then could you turn around give lamar and bynum for KG you could have JO playing center KG at Power forward Luke at SF and Kobe at SG and in the JO trade you could get Tinsley or in the Twolves trade you can get one of those pg they signed to horrendous contracts
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Postby wavy on Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:27 am

The Greatest wrote:I wonder and I don't know how the positioning would work but heres a crazy trade scenario you trade kwame farmar 1st rounder and vlad for JO then could you turn around give lamar and bynum for KG you could have JO playing center KG at Power forward Luke at SF and Kobe at SG and in the JO trade you could get Tinsley or in the Twolves trade you can get one of those pg they signed to horrendous contracts


this sounds very interesting. but i don't think it'll happen.
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Postby Klewfish on Sun Apr 29, 2007 4:03 pm

This is our current team right now.

Farmar/Smush/Shammond/McKie
Kobe/Evans/Sasha
Luke Walton/Vladamir
Odom/Turiaf/Cook
Kwame/Bynum/Mihm


Heres some propositions I would look into

-Cook/2007 2nd for Travis Outlaw (might need more, I don't know how much Blazers value Outlaw)

-S&T Mihm/Evans to the Rockets for Shane Battier/2007 2nd. IIRC, in a S&T, the player can only go out solo. So they'd have to trade Mihm for Battier, and Evans for a 2nd to get the deal done. Evans would replace Battier, and Mihm would give Yao an adequate backup

-Vladamir/2008 2nd for Zaza Pachulia (again, I don't know how much the Hawks value Zaza)

-Sign Charlie Bell with MLE this offseason

-Draft Thaddeus Young, Derrick Byars or Aaron Afflalo. 2nd round- Avis Wyatt

-Trade Luke Walton for a veteran PF/C like Juwan Howard or Antonio McDyess, Alonzo Mourning etc.

new lineup

Charlie Bell/Jordan Farmar
Kobe Bryant/draft pick/Sasha Vujacic
Shane Battier/Travis Outlaw
Lamar Odom/Zaza Pachulia/Ronny Turiaf/Wyatt
Kwame Brown/Andrew Bynum/Luke Walton trade
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Postby Helljumper on Thu May 03, 2007 7:28 pm

I posted this somewhere else on CL but I'll post it here too.

If I were Mitch, I'd try to send over Radmanovic, Kwame, Bynum, and a future first round pick for JO.

Then we convince Luke to resign for cheap and we spilt the MLE between Jamal Magloire and Charlie Bell.

Bell/Farmar/Vujacic
Bryant/Evans
Odom/Walton
O'neal/Cook
Magloire/Turiaf
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Postby Klewfish on Thu May 03, 2007 7:50 pm

LO/Farmar/Vlad/1st for Kirk/Deng/Nocioni
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Postby extreme on Sat May 05, 2007 9:16 am

Too bad this section is full of own created trades... and no rumors
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Postby Crispy on Sun May 06, 2007 7:43 pm

Something VERY PIPE I just thought up.

Lakers re-sign Shammond Williams, Aaron McKie, and Luke Walton.
Lakers cut Smush Parker and Chris Mihm.

Lakers Get: Jermaine O'neal
Pacers Get: Kwame Brown, S&T Luke Walton, Vladimir Radmanovic

Lakers Get: Charlie Villanueva, S&T Reuben Patterson
Bucks Get: Andrew Bynum, S&T Aaron McKie, Bobcats 2nd rd pick

Lakers draft Tiago Splitter and Quinton Hosley.

Lakers split MLE between Jason Hart and Melvin Ely.


PG - Farmar/Hart/Williams
SG - Bryant/Evans/Vujaic
SF - Odom/Patterson/Hosley
PF - Villanueva/Turiaf/Cook
C - O'neal/Ely/Splitter

The reason for Villanueva is that Villanueva spreads the floor for when Kobe and Odom penetrates and for when O'neal posts up. Patterson is our poor-man's Ron Artest and will be our 6th man. See what a player like Andrew Bynum can potentially get us? Good, quality starters.

We're balanced offensively and defensively. CHAMPIONSHIP!
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Postby lakersforthewin on Sun May 06, 2007 10:34 pm

What do yous think about this offseason? It seems realistic to me and would make us contenders next year I would think.

1.Sign Charlie Bell for full MLE
Reason:Solid PG, excellent underrated def and good 3-point shooter.

2.Trade Kwame and 1st round (2007) to SAC. for Ron Artest.
Reason:If the Kings are looking to rebuild they will probably ship out Miller and Bibby. Even if they don't an expiring contract is tempting along with a 1st round in a very deep draft. Maloofs might think that they would poison us with a headcase like Artest but I'm sure Kobe, Phil, Lamar will. A lockdown perimenter defender just put it at that.

~Another option for # 2~
Instead of the # 1 put Farmar in and use the pick to hopefully draft Acie Law.

3.Resign Walton, Turiaf, and Mihm.

4.Use vet min. on Eddie Jones or P.J Brown
Reason:Veteran exp. off the bench will help us greatly.

5.Send our 2nd round picks to D-League or just release them.

So this could be our lineup next year.

Bell/Farmar/Jones
Bryant/Evans/Vujacic
Artest/Walton/Radmonivic
Odom/Cook/Brown
Bynum/Mihm/Turiaf

this team right here is realistic without giving up Odom or Bynum and is much better defensively than last year's team. I think it could contend for a title, even if it doesn't it would entice opt outs like KG to sign for less money to get a championship. Well theres my plan so tell me what you guys think?
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Postby cobra on Tue May 08, 2007 5:36 am

Trade Lamar,Cook and Radmanovic to the pistons for Sheed and Nazr Mohammed

Trade 19 round pick, Kwame and Vujacic to the Knicks fon Jamal Crawford and Renaldo Balkman

Sign Mo Williams,PJ Brown
Resign Walton
Draft Taurean Green



Mo Williams-Farmar-Green
Kobe-Crawford-Evans
Walton-Balkman
Sheed-Turiaf-PJ Brown
Mohammed-Bynum
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Postby jsin151 on Tue May 08, 2007 9:30 pm

The way I see it, we need to fill two holes. PG and SF. A quick pg that can stay in front of his man leads to less fouls for our bigs.

I say E Watson should be a target for the Lakers. Kwame and Cook for E Watson

At SF our best bet is Artest. If the Kings are willing to trade with us we can offer up Luke, Mihm, and 1st rd pick

Defense is improved and we do not rid ourselves of Bynum and Odom, we basically keep the core together

Use the MLE on either Magloire of Moore
If we have the LLE use it on PJ Brown for depth at the pf

Watson/Farmar/Williams
Kobe/Evans/Sasha
Artest/Radmonvic
Odom/Tuiaf/Brown
Bynum/Magloire

Would this lineup win a championship. Maybe not, but if KG, Oneal, Gasol, or even Billups falls through this may be the best thing for the team. This offseason is already excruciating for me.
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Postby Still A Dynasty on Wed May 09, 2007 11:26 pm

Odom, Cook, 19th for Hinrich, Nocioni( S & T)

Vlad for Eric Snow
Kwame, Bynum, Snow, Future 1st for JO

MLE-Webber
LLE-Pattersonn
Vet Min-PJ Brown

Resign Luke, Mihm, Williams

Oneal/Turiaf/Mihm
Webber/Brown
Nocioni/Walton/Patterson
Bryant/Evans/Sasha
Hinrich/Farmar/Williams
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Postby escobar8 on Sun May 13, 2007 1:52 pm

is this posible...couz i dont know how many players you can ST
i would trade
odom
evans
farmar

to CHI for
ST nocioni
duhon
thomas


and then we can trade thomas and kwame for gasol...
i know its sounds weird...but is it posible...???

and then we would have +mle

duhon
bryant
nocioni
gasol
bynum

and chi would finaly get someone who can score inside
and odom can play even better on the east...
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possible trades/free agent signings...

Postby lakerfan2 on Sat May 19, 2007 1:34 pm

TRADE BETWEEN - LAKERS AND TWOLVES

LAKERS GET:
Kevin Garnett
Marko Jaric
Mark Madsen

TWOLVES GET:
Lamar Odom
Kwame Brown
Vladamir Radmonivic

TRADE ACCEPTED http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~617~1016~261~387~496&teams=16~16~16~13~13~13

-OR-

We sign Mike Bibby over the off-season.

Either trade/signing would do well for the Lakers at both needed positions.
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Postby Amongst_Kings on Wed May 23, 2007 8:58 pm

maybe this would work...

Indiana Gets:
Kwame, Bynum, McKie(s&t), 19th

Lakers Get:
Jermaine O'neal

Kings Get:
Vladamir Radmanovic
Jordan Farmar
2 Second Rounders

Los Angeles Gets:
Ron Artest

MLE (4 Million): Charlie Bell
MLE (1.36 Million): PJ Brown
Vet Min: Eddie Jones

Resign Mihm, Walton, Shammond

Oneal/Turiaf/Mihm
Odom/Brown/Cook
Artest/Walton
Kobe/Evans/Sasha
Jones/Bell/Shammond

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Postby KobeCory8 on Wed May 23, 2007 9:44 pm

this is really realistic in my point of view
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Postby Amongst_Kings on Thu May 24, 2007 12:13 am

blow it all up...

Odom for Deng, Seflosha
Wallace/Odom/Nocioni/Gordon/Hinrich 6th man= Thomas

Kwame, Bynum, McKie, 19th, for Oneal


MLE: Webber
Vet Min: Eddie Jones
Vet Min: Patterson

Oneal/Turiaf/Mihm
Webber/Vlad/Cook
Deng/Walton/Patterson
Bryant/Evans/Sasha
Jones/Seflosha/Farmar
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Postby jellyroll49 on Sat Jun 02, 2007 5:55 pm

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/t ... 3~13~11~11

the portland part is a tad unrealistic but we get to keep bynum and every1 gets a good deal for wat they give up.
"It's not even close," says one Western Conference scout. "The difference between Kobe and LeBron is like [the one between] a Maserati and a Volvo."


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Postby Klewfish on Sat Jun 02, 2007 6:43 pm

Lamar Odom/Andrew Bynum/Vladamir Radmanovic/ for Jermaine O'Neal//Jamaal Tinsley.

Jordan Farmar/#19/Cook for Ron Artest

MLE- PG (Charlie Bell, Eddie Jones?)
Vet Min- Danny Fortson
Resign Shammond Williams

Tinsley/Bell/Shammond
Kobe/Evans/Sasha
Artest/Walton
O'Neal/Turiaf
Kwame/Fortson/Mihm
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Postby Radner on Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:19 pm

jellyroll49 wrote:http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~617~1016~1013~615~1024~454~1017&teams=22~11~22~22~13~13~11~11

the portland part is a tad unrealistic but we get to keep bynum and every1 gets a good deal for wat they give up.


I like it only I wish we could substitute Odom for Bynum.
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Postby jellyroll49 on Sat Jun 02, 2007 9:19 pm

JKsnoots wrote:
jellyroll49 wrote:http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~617~1016~1013~615~1024~454~1017&teams=22~11~22~22~13~13~11~11

the portland part is a tad unrealistic but we get to keep bynum and every1 gets a good deal for wat they give up.


I like it only I wish we could substitute Odom for Bynum.


i didnt even consider that cuz i natually wanted to keep bynum. i dont think it would work salary wise anyway.
"It's not even close," says one Western Conference scout. "The difference between Kobe and LeBron is like [the one between] a Maserati and a Volvo."


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Postby wallangong on Sun Jun 03, 2007 6:29 pm

i used the espn trade machine and came up with this:

Lakers
Incoming: Jermaine O'neal, Jason Kidd
Outgoing: Kwame, Bynum, Odom, Radmanovic, Evans

Pacers
Incoming: Kwame, Odom, Cook
Outgoing: Jermaine O'neal, Jamaal Tinsley

Nets:
Incoming: Bynum, Radmanovic, Tinsley
Outgoing: Jason Kidd

we get a HOF point guard and a star big man.
pacers get a versatile player in Odom, shooting in Cook, and low post D and expiring K of kwame.
nets the potential in Bynum, some shooting in Vlad, and a solid PG in place of kidd while williams develops.
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Postby Amongst_Kings on Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:03 pm

we are not trading Kobe.

So IMO the path to being an immediate contender is as follows.

Trade 1:
Bynum, Kwame, 19th (Acie Law), McKie(S&T), Future First for Jermaine

-Trust me Indiana does not want Odom. They are rebuilding not looking to take on a thrid option player with a big salary and someone who is gonna take away from their bright young stars in Diogu/Granger. They would then move guys like Dun Dun, Murphy, Daniels, Tinsley for some more youth and expiring Ks.

Indianas New Roster:
Bynum/Harrison
Diogu/Murphy
Granger/Dunleavy
Williams/Daniels
Law/Tinsley

Trade 2:
Odom, Evans, Vlad, Sasha, Farmar for Ron Artest, Brad Miller, Mike Bibby

One can dream...


MLE Split= Kapono, (3.6 Mill) Jannero Pargo(2 Mill)
Vet Min: Chris Webber (one last shot at gold)

40th-Reyshawn Terry
48th- Demitris Nichols


Your 2007-2008 Lakers:
Miller/Turiaf/Mihm
Oneal/Webber/Cook
Artest/Walton/Nichols
Kobe/Kapono/Terry
Bibby//Farmar/Pargo
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Postby diehard on Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:11 pm

After hearing that Kobe was at UCLA playing pick up ball with Paul Pierce I couldn't help but remember how much I wish we could get Pierce. I think he would be the perfect player to play along side Kobe.

Oh well, some things just aren't meant to be. :man6:
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Postby lakerhabib on Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:03 pm

Please donate to the "Save the Lakers Foundation".

Our team is a dying breed of what once used to be a great organization.
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Postby fahrique on Thu Jun 07, 2007 11:52 pm

...is it October yet?

...the rumor I read from a Sky post: "Charlotte is the third team on Kobe's list. Jordan runs the show. Cats have huge cap room, could build a team around Kobe from scratch in free agency over the next two years."

So, if I've got to go on that premise, then...

...Kobe to Charlotte for Wallace, Okafor, Knight, pick (# 8)
...Kwame & Walton to Denver for Camby
...Cook, pick/s to Sac for Artest

Odom / Farmar / Knight
Artest / Evans
Wallace / Radmanovic
Okafor / Turiaf
Camby / Bynum

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