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Postby Danny Ainge on Sun Apr 17, 2005 11:08 pm

It'd take alot to pry him away from Denver.
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Postby live and die in LA on Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:21 pm

lamar odom to the bulls for tyson chandler and chris duhon.

this trade would give us a defensive minded point guard who has shown he can score and an athletic big man that plays good defense
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Postby Jordan-esque on Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:50 pm

LaLaKeRz4lIfE wrote:Butler for LeBron!!!!

Yes!

We might even pursuade Usher to be co-owner of LA.

Heck let's throw in Lamar for KG as well, and Chucky for Wade!
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Postby Jordan-esque on Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:55 pm

Realistically speaking, I see the Lakers drafting a PG and trading for a PF. I really think that the Boozer trade will actually happen in the off-season. And if the Lakers are really desperate, Portland is moving Abdur-Rahim.
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Postby CaronKobeConnection on Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:00 pm

Lakers trade: Caron
Odom
Lakers get: Alvin Williams
Chris Bosh
Rafer Alston

Toronto Trades: Alvin Williams
Chris Bosh
Rafer Alston
Toronto Get: Lamar Odom
Michael Sweetney

Knicks Trade: Michael Sweetney
Knicks Get: CAron Butler

Successful Scenario
Due to L.A. Lakers, Toronto, and New York being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. L.A. Lakers, Toronto, and New York had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

I think this trade helps out all teams...Toronto Gets rid of alston who has been a cancer to them and recieve future in sweetney and Youth in Odom who will help them more than bosh did...Knicks do this to replace hardaway and thomas...Lakers do this because they need to get rid of useless chucky and improve in the pf position...

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Postby Coville on Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:04 pm

toronto isnt trading bosh, they want him for the future.

good groundless trade idea tho :P :p
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Postby Coppertop on Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:07 pm

CaronKobeConnection wrote:Lakers trade: Caron
Odom
Lakers get: Alvin Williams
Chris Bosh
Rafer Alston

Toronto Trades: Alvin Williams
Chris Bosh
Rafer Alston
Toronto Get: Lamar Odom
Michael Sweetney

Knicks Trade: Michael Sweetney
Knicks Get: CAron Butler

Successful Scenario
Due to L.A. Lakers, Toronto, and New York being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. L.A. Lakers, Toronto, and New York had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

I think this trade helps out all teams...Toronto Gets rid of alston who has been a cancer to them and recieve future in sweetney and Youth in Odom who will help them more than bosh did...Knicks do this to replace hardaway and thomas...Lakers do this because they need to get rid of useless chucky and improve in the pf position...

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Besides the fact that I can't see us getting anything less for Caron AND Odom, this is a great trade. Just what we want, another shoot first pg, an injured backup pg (that's what Alvin is, sorry), and another undersized PF to bang against the West. In my mind, it's Caron and Lamar for Bosh. No bueno.
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Postby bigsleepy on Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:20 pm

(Sorry this isn't completely Groundless)

LINK: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/story/302055p-258556c.html There are other roster moves that have to be made. But if there's ever going to be a turnaround in New York, it has to start with Marbury. Not moving from point guard to shooting guard, but moving on, to a fifth team where he could perhaps enjoy success as the No. 2 man to a dominant star, or playing for a taskmaster-type coach.

There's a very simple reason why Thomas has to do an about-face: With Marbury miscast as a leader, it's just not working. If it was, the Knicks wouldn't be going to the lottery with 33 wins.


NY is interested in ODOM and many believe that they may be willing to move Marbury.
If the Knicks are serious about playing a quicker style and spreading the floor with shooters, Odom would be a great addition. He can play power forward, run the offense and create mismatches. Odom had shoulder surgery two days ago but should be ready for camp.



Not an exact fit, but an interesting scenario (particularly in reference to their salary cap woes)
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Postby ShowtimeACB on Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:54 pm

Slava+George+2nd Round 2005 x Bender +1st Round 2005; I Agree

Atkins+Butler+Divac x Boozer ; I Agree

Odom x Chandler (s/t) + Duhon (s/t) ; I Agree

Then

1st Round 2005 (The Pacers one)+Conditional Future 1st Round (Miami,from Shaq´s trade) x 1st Round 2005 Toronto+2nd Round Toronto 2005

Draft : Gerald Green + Raymond Felton

Sign : Ron Murray (MLE) + Toni Kukoc (VM)


R.Felton
C.Duhon
S.Vujacic
R.Murray
K.Bryant
L.Walton
J.Jones
T.Kukoc
G.Green
J.Bender
C.Boozer
T.Chandler
C.Mihm
B.Grant

Plus We Would Still Have 2 2nd Rounds.
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Postby The Laker Link on Fri Apr 22, 2005 4:10 am

bigsleepy wrote:(Sorry this isn't completely Groundless)

LINK: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/story/302055p-258556c.html There are other roster moves that have to be made. But if there's ever going to be a turnaround in New York, it has to start with Marbury. Not moving from point guard to shooting guard, but moving on, to a fifth team where he could perhaps enjoy success as the No. 2 man to a dominant star, or playing for a taskmaster-type coach.

There's a very simple reason why Thomas has to do an about-face: With Marbury miscast as a leader, it's just not working. If it was, the Knicks wouldn't be going to the lottery with 33 wins.


NY is interested in ODOM and many believe that they may be willing to move Marbury.
If the Knicks are serious about playing a quicker style and spreading the floor with shooters, Odom would be a great addition. He can play power forward, run the offense and create mismatches. Odom had shoulder surgery two days ago but should be ready for camp.



Not an exact fit, but an interesting scenario (particularly in reference to their salary cap woes)



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Postby The Laker Link on Fri Apr 22, 2005 4:48 am

L.A. Lakers Trade Breakdown

Outgoing: Lamar Odom 15.2 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 3.7 apg in 36.3 minutes, Stanislav Medvedenko 3.8 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.3 apg in 9.8 minutes, Jumaine Jones 7.6 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 0.9 apg in 24.1 minutes

Incoming: Stephon Marbury 21.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 8.2 apg in 40.0 minutes Trevor Ariza 5.8 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 17.3 minutes
Change in team outlook: +0.9 ppg, -11.2 rpg, and +4.4 apg.

New York Trade Breakdown

Outgoing: Stephon Marbury 21.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 8.2 apg in 40.0 minutes, Trevor Ariza 5.8 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 17.3 minutes

Incoming: Lamar Odom 15.2 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 3.7 apg in 36.3 minutes, Stanislav Medvedenko 3.8 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.3 apg in 9.8 minutes, Jumaine Jones 7.6 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 0.9 apg in 24.1 minutes
Change in team outlook: -0.9 ppg, +11.2 rpg, and -4.4 apg.

Successful Scenario

Due to L.A. Lakers and New York being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. L.A. Lakers and New York had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.


Sleepy...let's tell Mtich to do this trade!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby CaronKobeConnection on Fri Apr 22, 2005 6:01 pm

funny how odom is from new york...And always rocks a new york hat in LA...
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Postby SOAD on Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:15 am

CaronKobeConnection wrote:funny how odom is from new york...And always rocks a new york hat in LA...


He wears NY hats in LA?

...aw hell no.
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Postby CaronKobeConnection on Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:17 am

Code: Select all
L.A. Lakers Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
   
Jumaine Jones
6-8 SF from Georgia
7.6 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 0.9 apg in 24.1 minutes
   
Lamar Odom
6-10 PF from Rhode Island
15.2 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 3.7 apg in 36.3 minutes
   
Caron Butler
6-7 SF from Connecticut
15.5 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 35.7 minutes
   
Stanislav Medvedenko
6-10 PF from Ukraine
3.8 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.3 apg in 9.8 minutes
   
Chucky Atkins
5-11 PG from South Florida
13.6 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 4.4 apg in 35.4 minutes
Incoming
   
Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. Johns
24.6 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 3.1 apg in 41.6 minutes
   
Mike Sweetney
6-8 PF from Georgetown
8.4 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 0.6 apg in 19.6 minutes
   
Stephon Marbury
6-2 PG from Georgia Tech
21.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 8.2 apg in 40.0 minutes
Change in team outlook: -1.0 ppg, -10.6 rpg, and +0.7 apg.

Indiana Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
   
Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. Johns
24.6 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 3.1 apg in 41.6 minutes
Incoming
   
Jumaine Jones
6-8 SF from Georgia
7.6 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 0.9 apg in 24.1 minutes
   
Caron Butler
6-7 SF from Connecticut
15.5 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 35.7 minutes
   
Stanislav Medvedenko
6-10 PF from Ukraine
3.8 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.3 apg in 9.8 minutes
Change in team outlook: +2.3 ppg, +6.4 rpg, and -0.0 apg.

New York Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
   
Mike Sweetney
6-8 PF from Georgetown
8.4 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 0.6 apg in 19.6 minutes
   
Stephon Marbury
6-2 PG from Georgia Tech
21.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 8.2 apg in 40.0 minutes
Incoming
   
Lamar Odom
6-10 PF from Rhode Island
15.2 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 3.7 apg in 36.3 minutes
   
Chucky Atkins
5-11 PG from South Florida
13.6 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 4.4 apg in 35.4 minutes
Change in team outlook: -1.3 ppg, +4.2 rpg, and -0.7 apg.


Successful Scenario
Due to L.A. Lakers, Indiana, and New York being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. L.A. Lakers, Indiana, and New York had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.


What do you guys think?
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Postby Kobe#1fan on Sat Apr 23, 2005 7:38 pm

First Draft Felton,Nate Johnson,Andre Blatche
Then Trade B Cook For Steven Hunter
Then Resign Luke Walton
Sign Reggie Evans
Buyout Vlade For two Mil and Resign For 1
Sign Brevin Knight for 650k
Trade Chucky And Deaven For Robert Traylor And Anderson Varejao
Sign and Trade Slava for Griffin
Then You Have

Felton,Knight,Sasha,Nate Johnson
Kobe,Sasha, Caron
Odom,Caron,Jumaine,Luke,
Griffin,Reggie,Blatche,Traylor
Mihm, Hunter,Varejao,Grant,Vlade

Snd Maybe Bring Douthit
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Postby The Laker Link on Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:34 pm

CaronKobeConnection wrote:
Code: Select all
L.A. Lakers Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
   
Jumaine Jones
6-8 SF from Georgia
7.6 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 0.9 apg in 24.1 minutes
   
Lamar Odom
6-10 PF from Rhode Island
15.2 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 3.7 apg in 36.3 minutes
   
Caron Butler
6-7 SF from Connecticut
15.5 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 35.7 minutes
   
Stanislav Medvedenko
6-10 PF from Ukraine
3.8 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.3 apg in 9.8 minutes
   
Chucky Atkins
5-11 PG from South Florida
13.6 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 4.4 apg in 35.4 minutes
Incoming
   
Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. Johns
24.6 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 3.1 apg in 41.6 minutes
   
Mike Sweetney
6-8 PF from Georgetown
8.4 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 0.6 apg in 19.6 minutes
   
Stephon Marbury
6-2 PG from Georgia Tech
21.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 8.2 apg in 40.0 minutes
Change in team outlook: -1.0 ppg, -10.6 rpg, and +0.7 apg.

Indiana Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
   
Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. Johns
24.6 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 3.1 apg in 41.6 minutes
Incoming
   
Jumaine Jones
6-8 SF from Georgia
7.6 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 0.9 apg in 24.1 minutes
   
Caron Butler
6-7 SF from Connecticut
15.5 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 35.7 minutes
   
Stanislav Medvedenko
6-10 PF from Ukraine
3.8 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.3 apg in 9.8 minutes
Change in team outlook: +2.3 ppg, +6.4 rpg, and -0.0 apg.

New York Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
   
Mike Sweetney
6-8 PF from Georgetown
8.4 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 0.6 apg in 19.6 minutes
   
Stephon Marbury
6-2 PG from Georgia Tech
21.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 8.2 apg in 40.0 minutes
Incoming
   
Lamar Odom
6-10 PF from Rhode Island
15.2 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 3.7 apg in 36.3 minutes
   
Chucky Atkins
5-11 PG from South Florida
13.6 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 4.4 apg in 35.4 minutes
Change in team outlook: -1.3 ppg, +4.2 rpg, and -0.7 apg.


Successful Scenario
Due to L.A. Lakers, Indiana, and New York being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. L.A. Lakers, Indiana, and New York had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.


What do you guys think?


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Postby kobesthegreatest8 on Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:28 pm

BillaBong wrote:toronto isnt trading bosh, they want him for the future.

good groundless trade idea tho :P :p
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Postby leftymo on Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:35 pm

Here we go... just for entertainment and imaginery purposes only. No need to tell me pipe or won't happen, I already know!


KG demands trade to LA after 9 years of frustration in Minnesota. Doesn't like that they fired their coach and have an old roster... in 10 years in Minny, he's been past the first round only once and wants to win.

Lakers trade Lamar Odom, Devean George, Brian Cook, and Miami's 1st round pick for Kevin Garnett. (salaries match).

On the same day, Lakers trade Butler, Vlade, Atkins and S&T Luke Walton or Sasha for Raja Bell & Carlos Boozer. (possibly a 2007 1st rounder to UTH)

Lakers sign Antonio Daniels with the MLE. Lakers re-sign Vlade with the Vet's min.

Lakers draft Raymond Felton or Jarret Jack.

ROSTER-- In the triangle

Bell/Felton.
Bryant/Daniels
Garnett/Jones
Boozer/BG/Slava
Mihm/Vlade

Sasha or Walton would also be on this roster. Lakers would still need to sign a player or two to the LLE or vet's min.
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Postby Still A Dynasty on Wed Apr 27, 2005 1:23 pm

trade lottto, trade exception, cook, vlade, atkins for boozer

utah can then trade up for the first using both our pick and their pick for the first so they can draft andrew bogut and get cap space back

trade caron, mihm, cash, future miami first for magloire, brown

trade george, med, 2nd fir bender, first

MLE-Bobby Jackson
LLE-vlade after buyout

draft jarret jack and stoudamire

Magloire/Divac/Douhit
Boozer/Brown/Bender
Odom/Walton/Jones
BryantStoudamire/Bobbitt
Jackson/Jack/Vujacic
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Postby Fly Like A Mosquito Bite on Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:14 pm

What if we trade the deal of Feb: Caron, Deavean and Divac for Boozer. Then we trade Boozer and Odom and some players to match the contracts for KG?
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Postby ShowtimeACB on Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:48 pm

What do u guys think about Marquis Daniels?

I love his game,but it seems Avery Johnson doesn´t :man10:

He can play both PG and SG,n he´s a really gud defender.

Odom x Terry+Daniels

Butler,Divac,George x Boozer

Draft Felton/Jack

MLE Eddie Griffin

Move Atkins,Slava,Cook (pray to Jerry to send us Swift on a S/T)

Terry/Jack-Felton
Daniels,Vujacic
Kobe,J.Jones,Walton
Boozer,E.Griffin
Mihm,B.Grant
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Postby shoe on Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:48 pm

DONT WANT TERRY!!!!!!!! :man2:
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Postby PurpleNGold1 on Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:58 pm

Kobe#1fan wrote:First Draft Felton,Nate Johnson,Andre Blatche
Then Trade B Cook For Steven Hunter
Then Resign Luke Walton
Sign Reggie Evans
Buyout Vlade For two Mil and Resign For 1
Sign Brevin Knight for 650k
Trade Chucky And Deaven For Robert Traylor And Anderson Varejao
Sign and Trade Slava for Griffin
Then You Have

Felton,Knight,Sasha,Nate Johnson
Kobe,Sasha, Caron
Odom,Caron,Jumaine,Luke,
Griffin,Reggie,Blatche,Traylor
Mihm, Hunter,Varejao,Grant,Vlade

Snd Maybe Bring Douthit
who the hell is nate johnson lol n clev aint gon trade varejo hunter is free agent traylor is trash n thas tooooooooooo many players 18 players?????? LOL
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Postby GCMD on Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:31 pm

Trade LO and expiring contracts for Ben Gordon and Antonio Davis...

Ben Gordon would play PG in the triangle...
Trade AD and his 13 mil expiring contract at the trade deadline for an impact BIG...

Mihm
AD
Caron
Kobe
Gordon...before the deadline

Magloire
Mihm
Caron
Kobe
Gordon...after deadline

Or whoever you want to trade for...
Feel free to ignore anything I say...

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To get KG

Postby nosebleedbum on Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:03 pm

Here's a proposal to get KG


LAKERS trades

Grant (14.5 mil)
Odom (11.5 mil)
George (4.5 mil)
Cook (0.9 mil)

Total 31.4 mil

T-WOLVEStrades

KG (18 mil)
Cassell (6.1 mil)
Hassel (3.9 mil)

Total 28 mil

CLIPPERS trades

Brand (13.1 mil)
Maggette(6.7)
Wilcox (2.8 mil
Jaric (4 mil) (sign and trade)

Total 26.6 mil

LAKERS Receives

KG (18 mil)
Maggette(11.5 mil)
Jaric (4 mil) (sign and trade)

Total 28.7 mil


T-WOLVES Receives

Brand (13.1 mil)
Odom (11.5 mil)
Wilcox (4.5 mil)
Cook (0.9 mil)

Total 28.3 mil


CLIPPERS Receives
Cassell (6.1 mil)
Grant (14.5 mil)
Hassel (3.9 mil)
George (4.5 mil)
Lakers's future #1
Minnesota 's #1

Total 29 mil


All this assumes The cheap donald do not want to be stuck with 5 more years of big contracts in maggette and brand and miss the playoffs. He'll still get the 2 #1's the wolves and the lakers throw his way. Since the lakers will save about 2.5 mil in salary they can give him cash also. Grant will be next year's kittle. The only long term is hassel ( 4 year) Cassell can back up Livingston or vice versa. George will take ove Simmon's spot. He'll probably sign somewhere else for 5+ mil long term. Minnesota gets fair exchange for KG. We get the return of the dynamic dual.

Of course all this is pipe territory but it seems fair and doable. Just have to convince Sterling it's money in his bank.
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