Philly/La ?

jhaze323 · by **jhaze323** on Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:04 pm

December 8, 2006 -- THE Allen Iverson Period in Philadelphia is rapidly dragging to an undignified conclusion.

According to two agents whose clients play for the 76ers, Iverson went to team president Billy King this past Tuesday and demanded to be traded, something he professed repeatedly over the years he'd never do.

According to two general managers King contacted yesterday, the 76ers are aggressively attempting to accommodate their forlorn franchise player, whose prohibitive salary (currently $17.1 million with $19M and $20.8M remaining) makes him a difficult sell despite a 31-point average - at least if the Sixers hope to harvest relatively equal value.

At the same time, emphasized one of those GMs: "A.I. is not the only player Billy is looking to move. His second breath is about Chris Webber." And that's not where the conversation stops.

Everybody is gladly available. Andre Iguodala or Sam Dalembert may have to be surrendered in order to move Webber ($20.7M/22.3M next season) or A.I. "But the big push is on to deal Iverson."

That's not solely because he wants out, but because his attitude leaves management no other option. If he were going along with the program, the 76ers would hide and wait for the right opening.

The night after filing for divorce, Iverson essentially put his effort on cruise control in Chicago as the Bulls exterminated the 76ers, 121-94, vaulting to a 39-16 first-quarter spread and winning the subsequent three.

Imagine how competitive it would've been had the Sixers not held a team meeting that afternoon.

A convulsive back was cited as the explanation for Iverson's 25-point (7-17) seven-assist, seven-turnover, defensively-felonious performance. Don't be foolish enough to fall for it. Or Maurice Cheeks' counterfeit contention the 76ers' spirit is "still there," players "still are trying" and "no one has given up."

Iverson, indeed, gave up. "If you know your leader doesn't care, how are we supposed to play with the guy?" steamed a teammate to his agent.

According to the same agent, Iverson told King he likes Cheeks as a person "but not as a coach." In other words, "either he goes or I go."

Despite numerous people in Philadelphia and Portland (where Cheeks coached for three seasons and 55 games) believing Maurice is overmatched on the sidelines, he has the full support of Chairman Ed Snider and King.

lakEr$ should trade ODOM AND ? for A.I.!!!!!!!!

Lareezy · by **Lareezy** on Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:09 pm

SWOL wrote:
bb7793 wrote:
SWOL wrote:WHY WOULD THEY TRADE THIER BEST SHOOTER FOR A PIECE OF CRAP

Why would they have traded for Jamal Mashburn? Why would they have traded for Chris Webber? They arent exactly know for making the best moves for the team.

EXACTLY THEY HAVE BEEN BURNED BEFORE, THEY ARE PROBABLY GUN SHY. THINK ABOUT IT THEY HAVE A GOOD YOUNG CORE WITH IGGY, TREY K AND DALEMBERT. NOT TO MENTION JOHN SALMONS IS GOOD ROLE PLAYER, WHY ON EARTH WOULD THEY TRADE FOR A PIECE OF CRAP AND GIVE ANYTHING UP? MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.

john salmons plays for the queens now

jhaze323 · by **jhaze323** on Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:24 pm

I WENT TO ESPN.COM TRADE MACHINE AND TRIED TO DO A TRADE AND IT WORKED! IF YOU WANT PROOF GO 2 "http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trademachine"

This Trade Succeeded! Go back to adjust your trade or start over.

Incoming Players
Allen Iverson
Salary: $17,184,375 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 31.2 REB: 2.7 AST: 7.3 PER: 24.00

Samuel Dalembert
Salary: $9,464,307 Years Remaining: 5
PTS: 8.5 REB: 8.1 AST: 0.3 PER: 15.01

Outgoing Players: Brian Cook, Kwame Brown, Luke Walton, Lamar OdomPhiladelphia 76ers

Incoming Players
Brian Cook
Salary: $1,817,141 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 5.2 REB: 2.6 AST: 0.8 PER: 18.04

Kwame Brown
Salary: $8,287,500 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 8.4 REB: 6.7 AST: 1.6 PER: 15.72

Luke Walton
Salary: $1,375,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 11.8 REB: 4.6 AST: 3.7 PER: 15.73

Lamar Odom
Salary: $12,348,596 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 19.1 REB: 8.7 AST: 4.8 PER: 17.90

Outgoing Players: Allen Iverson, Samuel Dalembert

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Weezy · by **Weezy** on Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:35 pm

Kwame, Luke, AND Odom is giving up way too much for Allen Iverson. Odom straight up for Iverson would be almost worth it.

jhaze323 · by **jhaze323** on Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:43 pm

Weezy wrote:Kwame, Luke, AND Odom is giving up way too much for Allen Iverson. Odom straight up for Iverson would be almost worth it.

I TRIED TO DO THAT TRADE AND IT SAYS THIS "The Lakers are over the cap, and their incoming salaries are greater than 125% plus $100,000 of their outgoing salaries. They need to cut $1,648,630 from the incoming trade value to make this trade successful."
SO THAT MEANS WE WOULD HAVE TO TRADE MORE PLAYERS, A.I IS THE P.G. WE DESPERATELY NEED!

ESPN TRADE MACHINE:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trademachine

jhaze323 · by **jhaze323** on Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:01 pm

COME ON WE GOTTA GET HIM! LETS TRADE ODOM OUR WEAK SPOT IS P.G.

KGB · by **KGB** on Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:50 pm

wavy wrote:no chance in hell philly is doing this deal. cook has never shown talent, the guy sucks on D and shoots a lot and makes very littrle of his shots, while Korer has proven to be a decent shooter. i would surely love to make this deal but i doubt philly would do this they would probably want more players or a draft pic.

We could give them a 1st rounder(do we have one) due to all our young players.

Armo Flava · by **Armo Flava** on Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:19 pm

IF WE CAN SOME HOW GET ALLEN I AND KEEP ODOM AND KOBE, WE WILL BE ON TOP AGAIN.

buzzman · by **buzzman** on Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:34 am

KOBEistheish wrote:IF WE CAN SOME HOW GET ALLEN I AND KEEP ODOM AND KOBE, WE WILL BE ON TOP AGAIN.

Look at this... I think this is a photochop...

The Maverick · by **The Maverick** on Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:23 am

A.I. is NOT the PG the Lakers need, they need a player like Billups.

KB24 · by **KB24** on Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:28 am

reasons why we should get him

1. He is one of the best scorers in the NBA
2. We BADLY need a PG and with AI we would have one of the best PGs in the league. With Kobster and Allen thats an all-time great back-court
3. We would have a chance at the bling bling immidately most likely.
4. AI is great at going to the rim.

Why we shouldn´t get him...

1.He is 31, little injury prone and has 60 mio. left on his contract for the next 3 years which is 20 per year. Too much salary for my taste

2. Kobe and AI are BOTH league leaders in scoring. Our team would become too perimeter orinetated which leads to low quaility shots and outside-in game but we want an inside-out game.

3. Iverson is a fast break PG. I´m not sure he would thrive in the triangle specially since he can´t shoot the 3 ball with any kind of consistency.

4. We would probably have to give up too much.

5. AI has attitude issues. I´m not sure Kobe is gonna accept that if AI skips work outs and is partying too much.

bottom line, AI would improve the Lakers, but his impact will be limited due to him being a bad triangle fit. Given he has a big salary, and that we would have to give up Bynum I would say no to this deal. KG is different, you know he can immidiately close a huge gap. WIth AI you don´t know how he can make himself assertive in a team that has some chemistry.

bb7793 · by **bb7793** on Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:53 pm

This Trade Succeeded!

Minnesota Timberwolves

Incoming Players
Sasha Vujacic
Salary: $973,920 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 2.5 REB: 1.1 AST: 0.7 PER: 3.16

Aaron McKie
Salary: $2,500,000 Years Remaining: 1

Allen Iverson
Salary: $17,184,375 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 31.2 REB: 2.7 AST: 7.3 PER: 24.04

Kwame Brown
Salary: $8,287,500 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 8.9 REB: 6.6 AST: 2.2 PER: 16.15

Outgoing Players: Ricky Davis, Mark Blount, Kevin Garnett

Los Angeles Lakers

Incoming Players
Bobby Jones
Salary: $412,718 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 0.3 REB: 0.5 AST: 0.3 PER: 3.34

Samuel Dalembert
Salary: $9,464,307 Years Remaining: 5
PTS: 8.7 REB: 7.8 AST: 0.4 PER: 15.88

Kevin Garnett
Salary: $21,000,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 21.6 REB: 12.0 AST: 3.7 PER: 26.63

Outgoing Players: Sasha Vujacic, Chris Mihm, Aaron McKie, Brian Cook, Kwame Brown, Lamar Odom

Philadelphia 76ers

Incoming Players
Ricky Davis
Salary: $6,364,400 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 14.4 REB: 2.9 AST: 4.6 PER: 14.42

Chris Mihm
Salary: $4,214,241 Years Remaining: 1

Brian Cook
Salary: $1,817,141 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 4.8 REB: 2.4 AST: 0.7 PER: 17.17

Mark Blount
Salary: $7,288,165 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 10.6 REB: 5.4 AST: 0.5 PER: 11.02

Lamar Odom
Salary: $12,348,596 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 18.4 REB: 9.1 AST: 5.1 PER: 17.47

Outgoing Players: Bobby Jones, Allen Iverson, Samuel Dalembert[/img]

A-0ne · by **A-0ne** on Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:18 am

I would never trade odom, he's doing to good this season. AI & kobe can't play together. It's going to be like kobe & shaq agian fighting over how's team it is.

CaCHooKa Man · by **CaCHooKa Man** on Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:08 am

mihms injured player exception, cookie, and shammond for AI. why do you think shammond wasnt at the spurs game and cookie was mysteriously sick for a few weeks? :man1:

bb7793 · by **bb7793** on Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:12 am

too bad all of those salaries dont even add up to half of what AI makes

jBL · by **jBL** on Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:18 am

bb7793 wrote:This Trade Succeeded!

Minnesota Timberwolves

Incoming Players
Sasha Vujacic
Salary: $973,920 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 2.5 REB: 1.1 AST: 0.7 PER: 3.16

Aaron McKie
Salary: $2,500,000 Years Remaining: 1

Allen Iverson
Salary: $17,184,375 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 31.2 REB: 2.7 AST: 7.3 PER: 24.04

Kwame Brown
Salary: $8,287,500 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 8.9 REB: 6.6 AST: 2.2 PER: 16.15

Outgoing Players: Ricky Davis, Mark Blount, Kevin Garnett

Los Angeles Lakers

Incoming Players
Bobby Jones
Salary: $412,718 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 0.3 REB: 0.5 AST: 0.3 PER: 3.34

Samuel Dalembert
Salary: $9,464,307 Years Remaining: 5
PTS: 8.7 REB: 7.8 AST: 0.4 PER: 15.88

Kevin Garnett
Salary: $21,000,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 21.6 REB: 12.0 AST: 3.7 PER: 26.63

Outgoing Players: Sasha Vujacic, Chris Mihm, Aaron McKie, Brian Cook, Kwame Brown, Lamar Odom

Philadelphia 76ers

Incoming Players
Ricky Davis
Salary: $6,364,400 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 14.4 REB: 2.9 AST: 4.6 PER: 14.42

Chris Mihm
Salary: $4,214,241 Years Remaining: 1

Brian Cook
Salary: $1,817,141 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 4.8 REB: 2.4 AST: 0.7 PER: 17.17

Mark Blount
Salary: $7,288,165 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 10.6 REB: 5.4 AST: 0.5 PER: 11.02

Lamar Odom
Salary: $12,348,596 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 18.4 REB: 9.1 AST: 5.1 PER: 17.47

Outgoing Players: Bobby Jones, Allen Iverson, Samuel Dalembert[/img]

Interesting that you included Bobby Jones. I totally forgot about him. We would get 3 good defensive guys, but I think we might be losing too much offensive power on the other hand in Sasha :man10:

I doubt that works for Philly. They just end up getting more contract players, especially a scrub like Blount.

Philly/La ?

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